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Speaking With Dead Grandfather

Started Feb 22, 2013, 04:04 PM39 posts
on Feb 22, 2013, 04:04 PM
#1

Firstly i'd like to say hello to everyone- this is my first post on this forum :D - Hello!

I wonder if anyone has any insight on what I experienced the other night. My grandfather passed away around 4 months ago. He had been very ill with alzhiemers for a long time, so his passing wasn't a shock... more of a relief in a sense. Anyway, 2 nights ago I was dreaming a normal dream about him- we were walking his greyhounds together (as we did when I was younger) i don't remember much of the details, it was quite hazy and just a normal pleasant dream. Then suddenly everything went very very focused as normally happens when I go lucid and it was just me and my papa in a sort of grey/ brown place (strange!). It was very clear and he said to me "thanks for greetin hen" (thanks for crying in good old scots) which i'm guessing was in reference to me crying after his death/ at the funeral. Anyway, I remember feeling very elated and happy and saying to him "it's really you it's really really you!" and then hugging him. Then I could feel a light tapping on my arm and sort of floated backwards and up to awaken to my fiance shrugging me awake for making noises in my sleep!

Has anyone experienced something similar? Was it really him visiting me?! I feel very comforted after the experience and I guess really think it was him coming through to speak to me :D He always said he would come back!!

on Feb 23, 2013, 02:50 AM
#2

Ive had a couple of actual visits of those who have passed away, in these they came to me and were in my bedroom with me (I was astral having an OBE at the time). I think thou spirits can also enter ones dreams too.

My grandfather visited me a very short time after his death... and my favourite uncle he visited me over 10 years after his death.

My grandfathers visit was very short.. basically just telling me he was okay while my uncle had longer visit. Interestingly my sister also got a visit by our grandfather around the same time.

With my uncle we chatted about various family members and he was asking me about things I'd done over the past 10 years. It was like my uncle hadnt been able to visit me before this and been away from us (he didnt die naturally but died in a motor bike accident when he hit a tree while also suspected being under the influence of drugs..marijuana). Maybe the way he died prevented him from having the awareness and ability to visit sooner????

Ive had experiences with the deceased too while completely awake and not meditating or in astral projection states. I had a cat who I used to experience for years after his death. I'd feel him brush himself against my legs while I was doing dishes at home.. other times I'd feel him jump up on me. I saw him too with my physical eyes just a glimpse as he walked out of a door or a glimpse of him walking across room. He only stopped visiting me after one day he frightened me cause I hadnt realised it was him (I thought a negative entity had jumped up onto me for a moment and was too slow stopping the fear emotion... at which time I felt a strong wave of fear leave my body and hit my beloved cat). Sadly I never saw or experienced him again after that. I think the negative energy directed at him had made him leave.

My children also had experiences with our spirit cat around the house while awake too. I dont know if it had anything to do with our cat so frequency being about the house but he'd died under the house and his body was still there.

People can and do come back and it may of been real.

on Feb 25, 2013, 10:18 AM
#3

i had an experience similar to it. my friend died bcoz of kidney failure 2 years ago. he was in great pain and discomfort, bcoz of it, i was happy for him wen he passed away. i used to see him in regular dream. just glimpses of him. one night i had this vivid dream about him, (it was not a LD ) he said he is happy wer he is right now, dont need to worry about him, he used to have a bad leg which is hard to walk on, but when i asked about his leg, he said its fine now. ( i wonder y i asked this question it wasnt a LD) and also he asked me to tell his parents about a letter, he said a specific name, but unfortunately i forgot that name wen i woke up. i never spoke about this to his parents bcoz they r too sensitive about him, wen they starts talking about him, they starts crying, and its not a pleasant view. so i am keeping to myself nowadays. its strange 2 have these kind of dream is it?. whatever it is , its makes us happy knowing they r fine werever they r.

on Feb 25, 2013, 10:55 PM
#4

My step-mother visted me in 2 of my dreams. I had been with her shortly before death and tried to comfort her about the process and tried to help her to let go. At the time she visited me in the dream, I thought that people had physical bodies in the next life although I know longer believe that (but I believe you can simulate them along with all other physical reality like in LDs).

So when I saw her I was very excited and said something like "That's great you have a physical body!" She replied something like, "Well, there are a lot of ghosts around here." Then she told me that I had helped her cross over "after the war" which I'm not sure about what that meant. But anyway she said she would also be there to help me when it was my time to pass into the afterlife. It was very encouraging for me. I hope she visits again and there are others who have passed that I'm interested in seeing. Who knows if it is actually that person, but it is very interesting anyway.

on Feb 26, 2013, 02:40 AM
#5

As comforting as that is, I don't think it was actually him. After somebody dies, their brain is no longer operable. All the synapses and fluids that make it work are gone and dried up. For him to be able to even have a chance of recognizing you or knowing you in a dream, he'd have to be alive. I don't even think people can have inter person dreams even when they are alive though. As unfortunate an opinion that is to have on my part, I feel that it is true. By no means though should you want to stop having dreams about talking to him. It is a great thing to be able to feel that loved one's company even thought they may be gone.

on Feb 26, 2013, 04:59 AM
#6

taniaaust1 wrote: Ive had a couple of actual visits of those who have passed away, in these they came to me and were in my bedroom with me (I was astral having an OBE at the time). I think thou spirits can also enter ones dreams too.

There are so many people who have reported experiences like these, including myself. It's a pretty interesting and I hope more people here share these experiences on this forum. I know it's hard to share intimate details about your loved ones so thanks to everyone who is contributing to the thread by sharing their experiences.

on Feb 26, 2013, 02:13 PM
#7

Worldenterer1 wrote: As comforting as that is, I don't think it was actually him. After somebody dies, their brain is no longer operable. All the synapses and fluids that make it work are gone and dried up. For him to be able to even have a chance of recognizing you or knowing you in a dream, he'd have to be alive. I don't even think people can have inter person dreams even when they are alive though. As unfortunate an opinion that is to have on my part, I feel that it is true. By no means though should you want to stop having dreams about talking to him. It is a great thing to be able to feel that loved one's company even thought they may be gone.

okay, then what about haunted house or place, u could always feel some kind of energy. what is that in ur opinion? just want to know ur view.

on Feb 28, 2013, 02:21 AM
#8

R99 wrote:

Worldenterer1 wrote:As comforting as that is, I don't think it was actually him. After somebody dies, their brain is no longer operable. All the synapses and fluids that make it work are gone and dried up. For him to be able to even have a chance of recognizing you or knowing you in a dream, he'd have to be alive. I don't even think people can have inter person dreams even when they are alive though. As unfortunate an opinion that is to have on my part, I feel that it is true. By no means though should you want to stop having dreams about talking to him. It is a great thing to be able to feel that loved one's company even thought they may be gone.

okay, then what about haunted house or place, u could always feel some kind of energy. what is that in ur opinion? just want to know ur view.

Personally, I think that people are just imagining this "energy." I've gone to "haunted" places and felt nothing. Most of the time on these ghost hunter shows I see, the people just overreact to everything to make the place seem haunted. And like I said before, there is a ton of evidence that points towards the truth that after someone dies, their brain is no longer operable. Just think, Alzheimer's can make some people unable to remember family members, and amnesia can result in absolute loss of memory. Those are just mishaps in the brain. Death shuts the whole thing down completely. That's right: absolute loss of all sensation and consciousness, forever. Kinda scary when ya think about it, but also cool. The only reason your brain works is because of constant blood flow, so after you die and the heart stops beating, it's game over.

on Feb 28, 2013, 05:14 PM
#9

:| i cannot make up my mind on this subject, maybe i need more experience.

on Mar 1, 2013, 12:17 AM
#10

R99 wrote: :| i cannot make up my mind on this subject, maybe i need more experience.

No, you don't need experience. You just need to listen to me, 'cause I'm right! :D

on Mar 1, 2013, 04:24 PM
#11

oooh, Mr.right guy haa. :lol:

on Mar 2, 2013, 04:59 AM
#12

R99 wrote: oooh, Mr.right guy haa. :lol:

Yes. 8-)

on Mar 2, 2013, 11:38 AM
#13

Worldenterer1 wrote:

R99 wrote:Worldenterer1 wrote:As comforting as that is, I don't think it was actually him. After somebody dies, their brain is no longer operable. All the synapses and fluids that make it work are gone and dried up. For him to be able to even have a chance of recognizing you or knowing you in a dream, he'd have to be alive. I don't even think people can have inter person dreams even when they are alive though. As unfortunate an opinion that is to have on my part, I feel that it is true. By no means though should you want to stop having dreams about talking to him. It is a great thing to be able to feel that loved one's company even thought they may be gone.

okay, then what about haunted house or place, u could always feel some kind of energy. what is that in ur opinion? just want to know ur view.

Personally, I think that people are just imagining this "energy." I've gone to "haunted" places and felt nothing. Most of the time on these ghost hunter shows I see, the people just overreact to everything to make the place seem haunted. And like I said before, there is a ton of evidence that points towards the truth that after someone dies, their brain is no longer operable. Just think, Alzheimer's can make some people unable to remember family members, and amnesia can result in absolute loss of memory. Those are just mishaps in the brain. Death shuts the whole thing down completely. That's right: absolute loss of all sensation and consciousness, forever. Kinda scary when ya think about it, but also cool. The only reason your brain works is because of constant blood flow, so after you die and the heart stops beating, it's game over.

Here's some studies you may wish to research as it will get you thinking. There have been studies done with plants and pain and they found that plants actually do feel pain. Another study found that plants KNEW when they were about to be hurt eg wave those pruners by them (this may of extended to even knowing when other plants close by were going to be hurt too). We all know plants dont have brains.. so how were they knowing all this if it wasnt for them still having conciousness thou being without brains.

I hope you find the studies Im refering too. .........

As far as haunted houses go. Ive found the energy not always to be present. I guess that is like ghosts, they often can come and go. besides.. Not all can feel energy in the first place unless you are an empath or psychic.. most wouldnt feel the energy of a spirit.

on Mar 11, 2013, 09:00 PM
#14

taniaaust1 wrote: Here's some studies you may wish to research as it will get you thinking. There have been studies done with plants and pain and they found that plants actually do feel pain. Another study found that plants KNEW when they were about to be hurt eg wave those pruners by them (this may of extended to even knowing when other plants close by were going to be hurt too). We all know plants dont have brains.. so how were they knowing all this if it wasnt for them still having conciousness thou being without brains.

I have seen some of that cool stuff about plants! Some scientists think that they may even be capable of communicating with each other. I am not making fun of your idea, I am absolutely serious. However, even if plants can react to external stimuli, that is very loosely correlated with human sensory and memory retention. Also, the plant must be alive to do these things.

on Mar 12, 2013, 04:27 AM
#15

at lest, now u know that plant dont need brain to communicate. we r higher species in this planet, plants can do it, then it is possible to do it our self. ;)

on Mar 12, 2013, 02:34 PM
#16

Worldenterer1 is right. It's not them. They are only lucid dreaming elements, semblances of the people that were once alive. The dead only live on in our memories and desire is a powerful thing when you're conscious in your dreams. Next time you speak with your grandfather, try to change his appearance with your mind. It is all you. You don't visit some afterlife when you dream. When the brain ceases to function at death, all experience ceases along with the sense of self. It's total olivion.

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on Mar 14, 2013, 01:07 AM
#17

Summerlander wrote: Worldenterer1 is right. It's not them. They are only lucid dreaming elements, semblances of the people that were once alive. The dead only live on in our memories and desire is a powerful thing when you're conscious in your dreams. Next time you speak with your grandfather, try to change his appearance with your mind. It is all you. You don't visit some afterlife when you dream. When the brain ceases to function at death, all experience ceases along with the sense of self. It's total olivion.

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Thank you Summerlander

on Mar 14, 2013, 06:59 AM
#18

i guzz we find it, after we die. right??? :lol:

on Mar 14, 2013, 11:25 AM
#19

When we are dead we won't even know it. There won't even be an "I" to know anything and certainly no experience. As I said, total oblivion. Nothing to be discovered. We may get a pre-death experience as the brains natural psychedelics and opiates kick in - if we're lucky. And that afterlife-like experience will only be temporary. Oblivion is inevitable. 8-)

on Mar 14, 2013, 02:09 PM
#20

if u say its oblivion, how do u know all this? did u died somwer and reborn? :lol:

on Mar 14, 2013, 04:25 PM
#21

R99 wrote: if u say its oblivion, how do u know all this? did u died somwer and reborn? :lol:

Good point, really

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on Mar 14, 2013, 07:29 PM
#22

LOL! :mrgreen:

Aa far as I know I was not conscious before I was born. We also know that conscious awareness evolves with the development of our bodies, namely our brains, and hence the reason why there is a huge difference in awareness between a baby and an adult. Thus, I can only conclude that death will be like the pre-birth state: non-existence. ;)

on Mar 14, 2013, 11:43 PM
#23

Summerlander wrote: Thus, I can only conclude that death will be like the pre-birth state: non-existence. ;)

This idea makes so much sense and is so simple yet so hard to grasp for many of the world's people! :lol:

on Mar 15, 2013, 05:11 AM
#24

Summerlander wrote: LOL! :mrgreen:

Aa far as I know I was not conscious before I was born. We also know that conscious awareness evolves with the development of our bodies, namely our brains, and hence the reason why there is a huge difference in awareness between a baby and an adult. Thus, I can only conclude that death will be like the pre-birth state: non-existence. ;)

take a WILD GUZZZ, wat if u forgot everything, wen u r a baby. i remember a short story about a baby who just born and story proceeds with the baby's thoughts. in it baby able to read others peoples thoughts and analyzing it, . it also give us a hint about how silly we (adults) r. funny story.

on Apr 25, 2013, 06:13 PM
#25

It was really could of been him, or it could have been a average DC. And it is very possible, the fact that people have such a dismal veiw on our life is a shame, but I suppose we all see when we die!

"External stimuli" can not tell you things you don't know, which I have read multiple dead people told lucid dreamers information they did not know.

Also there is a book called "Proof of Heaven", that shows quite well death is not the end of us. We continue on after death, despite a couple people's dismal veiws, the fluids in our brains aren't everything ;)

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on Apr 26, 2013, 07:18 PM
#26

You don't agree, but be careful that you don't sound like a 'missionary' Worldenterer; you know: 'you are wrong unless you believe what I believe ' (even if your 'religion' is Science) . Science doesn't know what consciousness is and freely admits this. Science is always altering previous 'viewpoints' based on new evidence; Science is not a static or dead discipline, and scientific theory is not proven fact. In fact 'Science' ( funny how we use that word itself as if it were a 'god' or religion) did not 'believe' Lucid Dreaming was possible until it was finally 'proven'. The best scientists are not afraid to wonder about things. That's the root of creative thinking. Otherwise the rigid 'rules' of what you are 'allowed' to think will result in no progress at all. (And 'consciousness' and a sense of self ( the ego) are not the same thing. Read Neil Turok (theoretical Physicist) Massey Lectures for more on this .)

on Apr 26, 2013, 08:47 PM
#27

mia wrote: You don't agree, but be careful that you don't sound like a 'missionary' Worldenterer; you know: 'you are wrong unless you believe what I believe ' (even if your 'religion' is Science) . Science doesn't know what consciousness is and freely admits this. Science is always altering previous 'viewpoints' based on new evidence; Science is not a static or dead discipline, and scientific theory is not proven fact. In fact 'Science' ( funny how we use that word itself as if it were a 'god' or religion) did not 'believe' Lucid Dreaming was possible until it was finally 'proven'. The best scientists are not afraid to wonder about things. That's the root of creative thinking. Otherwise the rigid 'rules' of what you are 'allowed' to think will result in no progress at all.

Very well said, i agree completely.

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on Apr 27, 2013, 12:56 AM
#28

Science has not figured out how consciousness arises but it has pretty much established that a functional brain is needed for its emergence. It is also the only method of inquiry doing anything about trying to solve the "self" puzzle.

Scientific theory should not be mistaken with our everyday usage of the word "theory" either. In science, a theory is rich and full of calculations and predictions (unlike the feeble arguments from hypotheses). Scientific theories are strong in content and lead to falsifiable predictions. This does not mean that they are liable to be proved false. It means that the theory is subject to experimentation which will either confirm or rule out its specific elements.

Science has no dogmas. It will always adapt and follow the evidence according to discoveries. Science deserves praise because it really is the best method we have with which to study reality.

After all, you only have science to thank for the fact that you have vehicles, phones, ipads, laptops, PCs, Macs, TVs, stereos, and Internet connection which ironically enough enables you to post here and express your dislike for science.

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on Apr 27, 2013, 01:19 AM
#29

Dislike? You are mistaken. Certainly not. Just the opposite. I am suggesting that we need to be circumspect enough not to make it a 'religion' and 'defend' theory with the zealousness of a 'believer'; it would be a great disservice to Science to do that. And the track record in scientific research in universities is not quite so clean as you imply; theories have been defended to the teeth in the name of funding and reputations, even at the expense of 'better science', among individual researchers. It's really 'dog eat dog' sometimes. It too is sadly subjected to the all too human ego and need for self advancement; and much valid research has been dropped for lack of funding ( most often driven by business who contribute funding and then have a big say in what is researched). The whole system has as many flaws as any human endeavor.

on Apr 27, 2013, 01:28 AM
#30

I agree with both of you, science is the best tool we have to study reality.

However, the best tool we have isn't exactly great at doing it's job, but it does the job none the less. Now I love science, I love when science and my "near-religious" beliefs work together, which they often do!

The only problem is, science is left brain. Pure left brain, but we have a right brain too! And I find when we look strictly from the left brain (as science does) it limits what we can understand. I am what I consider a good balance of both, although growing up science was my only answer. I have never followed religion, so I used to be completely left brain as well. I sounded alot like you in fact, but now, I've come to use my right brain a little more and my left brain a little less. I question everything and remain skeptical. We need balance though, we need to understand through both sides of our brains, not just one or the other! Which goes for the pure right brained people as well, of course.

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on Apr 27, 2013, 01:28 AM
#31

I'm not talking about research in universities. I'm talking about science is done properly. The scholars can only be competitive in the realm of uncertainty for so long and naturally people defend the ideas and interpretations they come up with. But science is science. If someone is not doing it properly they get found out. Moreover, whatever the interpretation, the outcome from experimentation is undeniable and something that everyone has to accept. Not because it's a dogma but because it is fact. Anyone who denies fact is a fool.

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on Apr 27, 2013, 02:13 AM
#32

LucidLink, you make some very good points, but I actually believe Science is very right brain when it's at it's best. When Scientists are motivated by a wonder for exploring life; they can be very creative individuals indeed. Then it is balanced. I think you are right Summerlander; it's at it's best when it's motive is truth.

(My apologies to Debreb; I'm afraid we're getting off of your topic.)

on Apr 27, 2013, 01:23 PM
#33

You're right, mia. We're off on a tangent. Taking about communing with deceased relatives in dreams would be closer to the topic.

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on May 3, 2013, 10:48 AM
#34

Wow- what an interesting discussion! Thanks to everyone for responding! The thing about this dream was that I took no steps in becoming lucid... I was having a normal dream (albeit about my grandfather) and it sort of seemed like HE "broke through" in a sense, and changed it into a lucid dream! I remember a very intense feeling of pure elation and happiness at the realisation that it was REALLY him. I don't know, I understand the brain is an AMAZING organ... this just felt like it came from outwith me! I guess I feel like maybe I was teetering about in some "area" or plane while I was dreaming that he (or his spirit) could reach!

I don't follow any particular religion and am open to most concepts- even Summerlanders cheery oblivion theory! ... I just think there is so much that we don't yet understand and, possibly, that we are not ABLE to understand in the human state. I read recently: when you look at your hand, just because you can only see one side, doesn't mean that the other side isn't there. I like that!

I wonder what you guys think about little kids (between sort of two and 4) who start talking about past lives and recall details that they have no way of otherwise knowing? Just what I've been reading about lately and wondered if anyone has any thoughts?

on May 3, 2013, 08:21 PM
#35

I have looked into the evidence for reincarnation thoroughly and have debated this many times before with people. I find the evidence for reincarnation out there insufficient. The latest I heard was the "boy from Mars". I follow science, and, as you are well aware, also hold a secularist stance.

While it's true that we still have not solved the mystery of consciousness, because, as you have rightly said, sometimes the answers are not so obvious, we must also not dismiss what we have discovered so far. The history of neuroscience has a weighty body of evidence that weighs in favour monism, in the sense that we are our physical bodies, more precisely, our brains (where consciousness most likely arises epiphenomenally).

We are in a position today where we can say, with great confidence, that Descartes' Dualism is absurd and the vitalist doctrine that living things must contain a non-physical element remains scientifically insubstantial.

As regards reincarnation cases, we need to be careful when vetting the parties involved before we jump to the conclusion that we have an immortal soul. We need to rule out carefully crafted hoaxes, confirmation bias, press fabricating sensationalist scoops, authors willing to publish material that people would like to read for personal satisfaction etc.

We must also not overlook possible mundane explanations. For instance, false memory that coincides with real past events (it can happen); the child overhearing something that was later brought back, mistakenly, as a memory; cryptomnesia (look it up!); the possibility that memories, or flashes of them, can be inherited in your genome and manifest as dreams, etc.

I think we die and that's it. Am I a fatalist for thinking this way? Not necessarily. Science could one day render us immortal in our present physical condition, which, in my opinion, is the only possible condition to be in as a living human being.

But I also think death is a blessing in disguise. Would you really want to live forever? Think about the mental torture as you run out of things to do and gradually become bored of doing and thinking the same things an infinite number of times. Soon you'd be saying, "Get me out of here before I lose my mind!"

But this is just my cheery oblivion theory... ;)

on May 5, 2013, 08:30 PM
#36

Summerlander wrote: I have looked into the evidence for reincarnation thoroughly and have debated this many times before with people. I find the evidence for reincarnation out there insufficient. The latest I heard was the "boy from Mars". I follow science, and, as you are well aware, also hold a secularist stance.

While it's true that we still have not solved the mystery of consciousness, because, as you have rightly said, sometimes the answers are not so obvious, we must also not dismiss what we have discovered so far. The history of neuroscience has a weighty body of evidence that weighs in favour monism, in the sense that we are our physical bodies, more precisely, our brains (where consciousness most likely arises epiphenomenally).

We are in a position today where we can say, with great confidence, that Descartes' Dualism is absurd and the vitalist doctrine that living things must contain a non-physical element remains scientifically insubstantial.

As regards reincarnation cases, we need to be careful when vetting the parties involved before we jump to the conclusion that we have an immortal soul. We need to rule out carefully crafted hoaxes, confirmation bias, press fabricating sensationalist scoops, authors willing to publish material that people would like to read for personal satisfaction etc.

We must also not overlook possible mundane explanations. For instance, false memory that coincides with real past events (it can happen); the child overhearing something that was later brought back, mistakenly, as a memory; cryptomnesia (look it up!); the possibility that memories, or flashes of them, can be inherited in your genome and manifest as dreams, etc.

I think we die and that's it. Am I a fatalist for thinking this way? Not necessarily. Science could one day render us immortal in our present physical condition, which, in my opinion, is the only possible condition to be in as a living human being.

But I also think death is a blessing in disguise. Would you really want to live forever? Think about the mental torture as you run out of things to do and gradually become bored of doing and thinking the same things an infinite number of times. Soon you'd be saying, "Get me out of here before I lose my mind!"

But this is just my cheery oblivion theory... ;)

PleAse look into a book called "Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Afterlife" by Eben Alexander, M.D.

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on May 5, 2013, 08:41 PM
#37

And me: I prefer a bit of a mystery; and choose to experience some things beyond their physical qualities. Sometimes I think it's like standing in front an amazing work of art and only considering it as looking at pigments created from acrylics that are dabbed on a 2 dimensional canvas and the effect is an illusion of 3 dimensions due to the application of one point perspective; in which case I've missed something sort of wonderful. I could do the same with music. I just don't want to. ;) Each to their own.

on May 5, 2013, 10:47 PM
#38

Trust me, LucidLink. I've looked into that book ages ago. Don't be fooled by it. First, it is certainly no proof of heaven, second - reverberations in his brain would have been measurable using adequate equipment in the lab, third - even the author admits a distortion of time perception which can occur through brain malfunction (and malfunction is still function lol).

It's not the first time a scientist is biased by faith and spirituality. Thankfully, the majority are honest and have a head about them.

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on May 17, 2013, 09:40 AM
#39

debreb wrote: I wonder what you guys think about little kids (between sort of two and 4) who start talking about past lives and recall details that they have no way of otherwise knowing? Just what I've been reading about lately and wondered if anyone has any thoughts?

I dont know any little kids who have done that but have had some interesting experiences which have confirmed to myself that we have past lives. I also carry some of my own past life memories and have come across others I was with in those lifetimes who also carried the same memories and remembered me. (I used to hang around with a lot of psychics and energyworkers and they like myself often carry past life memories too so at times one comes across a soul mate who actually can remember the same thing and oneself).

Here's two experiences I'll share.

When my daughter was young (I think she was 3 yrs old?? at the time, I cant remember.. she was very young), I came across a book on past life regression and in this book it actually had the past life regression hypnosis technique in it.. all the wording to use to put someone under and into a so called past life. (I hope no one gets angry at me for what Im about to say). Anyway.. I was in my early 20s at the time and had an intense curiousity and couldnt see any harm in trying this out on my young child (yeah, yeah, I know completely irresponsible!!).

Anyway.. I got my daughter to lay on the couch, shut her eyes and read this meditation to her (she was a very bright child, actually gifted, so intellegent above her years). I asked her something and what really stunned me is my 3 year old who was then in a trance who I'd been expecting to answer my questions in her own normal talking and in english, started talking fluently in another language... german or something. I freaked out at that as I hadnt been expecting anything to happen to brought her quickly back out of the state (following the books instructions and counting her back to our reality).

Things went wrong thou.. my daughter was left speaking with a strong strange accent for several days (I was further freaked out for that and wondered what on earth I was going to do and started to try to find hypnosis people to fix her). Fortunately after a few days she got her normal voice back.
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Same daughter.. but another experience.

I gained a past life memory in which my daughter had been a leader of some cult who did rituals (satanic like) and had sacrified me. I had a deep inner fear of her due to that. I never told my daughter this (I certainly wasnt about to tell her she'd murdered me). About a year or so after I'd regained this memory I kept to myself not noting it down anywhere or telling anyone, her best male friend of about 15 years old, one day flipped completely out and ended up hiding under her bed in fear of her. (I think then fled our house, I didnt find out about this till just after).

She came to me obviously a bit disturbed about what happened and told me that he had told her that he suddenly found himself reliving her sacrificing him in a ritual as part of a cult (hence why this 15 year old had ended up in fear under her bed hiding). She then goes to me "mum".. I really feel like its true and that I did that to him.. could that be true? She then started describing herself in that other life. (I think I told her what she did to me at that point or I may of later on, as far as I know she hasnt remembered sacrificing me).

Coincidence?? well it would be truely a strange one. ................

My second daughter. In a past life in what appears may of been England, I was partly responsible for her death and abused her, I still remember her from that lifetime, she was around 3 years old at the time.. a foster child my husband and I of that lifetime took in, we buried her in the garden. That daughter hates me this lifetime and doesnt really know why (I assume she dont remember but who really knows, I havent told her.. how does one broach the "do you remember that I buried you in the garden" thing?), she wont even speak to me. Maybe she wont forgive me this lifetime. (I was in the ICU nearly died, had been unconscious for days and she'd refused to come to the hospital when the hospital had rang her telling her I was in intensive care and unconscious).

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