The difference between waking life and the dream world.
Where is the dividing line?
Or is there a dividing line?
In the real world what one wills does not happen almost instantly and damage to ones body is much harder to repair and might be permanent. You'll also not die or suffer organ damage in a dream if one does not get proper food and drink. Women are also much less generous with their bodies in the real world - a good thing as being rejected is an essential part of building desire. It also sucks that one can't just possess people or animals and experience life in their bodies.
Wasn't expecting a quality response so fast, nice one.
Keep em coming.
The perception of waking life is part of a model created by our minds which is constrained by sensory input and serves as an interpretation. The perception of the dream world is largely unconstrained by sensory input (although it can be directly influenced by the external world in certain cases) and is thus part of a creative and malleable model. The dream model has the potential to reflect hidden (or subconscious) parts of the mind.
You want another difference? Waking life is us interacting with a world that is objectively existent. The universe is actual. The dream world is an illusion that only exists subjectively. Surreal, as Dali would have it. Nothing more than a mental concoction with no basis on reality other than neuronic activity.
That is a fascinating perspective to know that the dream world is not constrained by reality. It is constrained by the mind I suppose, which is in itself constrained to some degree by reality.
Snaggle wrote: Women are also much less generous with their bodies in the real world - .
Why would you want that?!? And some of us have a reason for being ungenerous. Some ladies may have been beaten up by bullies when they were in middle/high school, and most of those bullies were probably male. I mean if you were consistently beaten up by girls, you probably would have an anti-romantic side for the opposite gender. I am a strong anti-romantic obviously, and believe such things shouldn't exist. Leave re-population to science. And let's go get an education. Oh and date rejection is much more fun that acceptance, just look at this game: http://www.whackyourex.com/ I like to NN it whack your date. It is so comical, that you'll find it is a lot funnier to reject your date rather than accept him. Oh and this movie is funny too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgoWblK6by0
Yes there is a difference between reality and the dream world/multimedia world. Reality follows a set of laws ruled by science and math that we all must obey, whether we like it or not. Accomplishment requires hard work and dedication in the real world. There's also the limitations we have, the fact we can get sick and hurt in reality, there can be discrimination, persecution, and distrust from interactions in reality, not to mention disabilities and weakness, and of course consequences for our actions. However, the dream world/multimedia world is a world of our own creation and ideas (the dream world is in fact to me a programmed virtual reality), almost a virtual reality of sorts. Because we can program and simulate that reality to any way we imagine, it is in fact an alternate reality that we can literally thrive in with no apparent set rules or guidelines. As the programmer and designer in your virtual reality, you are the one who decides the laws, appearance, and regulations of how everything in your reality will behave. However, keep in mind that despite your new found freedom in being able to create a virtual reality for yourself, the laws of math will always be set in place, which is why you may see something unexpected happen or some odd comparison even in your happy place (probability). Laws of science also could have an unfortunate effect, if you are really sick in reality.
Nice answer, I would also like to reinforce the title that I mean waking life, so really im talking about our experiences as a whole, divided into two parts, when we are asleep, and when we are awake.
in the dream world we tend to act more like curious children and explore, play and have fun and in the "real" world we do everything but that.
Waking life is more solid, heavy, and stable. It is also far more meaningful because it is shared. As it says in "A Course In Miracles", what cannot be shared is not real.
I cant "Fly" in the real world (unless I am in one of those winged metal tubes that store terror and other negative emotions.) In the real world there is only 1 of me. I have no ability to switch from 1st person to 3rd (? Top down) view. In the real world, I will never wake up, and you can't make me. In the real world, when I break something physiologically, if I sleep and wake up, it is still broken. In the dream world I do not age, I am always at that perfect age, when ever that was. In the dream world I am happy (usually) where as in the real world I am simply not unhappy. In the real world, the shadow beings, lizard people, cat people, hooded beings, blazing beings, Marvins and those others don't exist, or else are very well disguised. In the real world, "changing the channel" only works for the tv, not for existence. In the dream world, I have never had OOBE/AP. In the dream world, I don't have tinnitus, carpel tunnel nor am I color blind. In the dream world, when you hit the bottom of the canyon, you simply bounce.
nawick wrote: I cant "Fly" in the real world (unless I am in one of those winged metal tubes that store terror and other negative emotions.) In the real world there is only 1 of me. I have no ability to switch from 1st person to 3rd (? Top down) view. In the real world, I will never wake up, and you can't make me. In the real world, when I break something physiologically, if I sleep and wake up, it is still broken. In the dream world I do not age, I am always at that perfect age, when ever that was. In the dream world I am happy (usually) where as in the real world I am simply not unhappy. In the real world, the shadow beings, lizard people, cat people, hooded beings, blazing beings, Marvins and those others don't exist, or else are very well disguised. In the real world, "changing the channel" only works for the tv, not for existence. In the dream world, I have never had OOBE/AP. In the dream world, I don't have tinnitus, carpel tunnel nor am I color blind. In the dream world, when you hit the bottom of the canyon, you simply bounce.
In the real world there is science that is working on a way to perfectly clone If that happened, you would be either in a coma or dead. That is pretty much true Ultimately it depends on your control in your reality, and usually how fate treats you in the real world on how happy you'll be in both worlds. Obviously, in your own reality, you are creating them. That's because the TV is a form of Multimedia a Multimedia Designer created. Ever notice you can things like that in a video game? Hope not. That'll just give you creepy pasta nightmares. And that isn't real anyway. Personally I can think of things that are a lot more daredevil to try in a Lucid Dream which are a lot less intimidating than that. Skydiving, befriending the spiders, facing an old enemy, swimming with sharks, or whacking your date: http://www.whackyourex.com/. In some Lucid Dreams/Dreams, that is quite the truth, isn't it? Or you just teleport to someplace safe before you hit the bottom.
By the way your theory about some of us being never born is a plain immature comment. We were all born the same, with different abilities. And you are no different than the rest of us, you are just having very vivid dreams. If you are having any luck with some of them, they are probability Lucid Dreams (your last dream you spoke of was a fine example of a Probability dream of the past: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DreamingOfTimesGoneBy) And unless you provide evidence on the Full Spectrum camera and post it on YouTube for us to see, I am not changing my mind
Edit: I saw that post you made Hagart. It is unfortunate that some people can't accept NO for an answer. My friends back in high school and I all knew this: personal space is very important. We never got too close to each other. Just because I am a female doesn't mean that you come in and by force invade my space. If you did, I know how to fight back and would not hesitate to do so.
Touche, nesgirl! And we definitely need our own personal space xx
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OOPS! :P I was actually razzing Snaggle. And deleted it after about 3 minutes! I might as well re-post it now.
All I said was:
In the dream world Snaggle thinks women are more generous with their bodies. In the real world Snaggle has his foot in his mouth! :D
(But I also admitted that I am the same in dreams, and I even mentioned that I was going to piss off Nesgirl)
Correct me if I'm wrong but that was almost EXACTLY what I wrote, just 3 lines like that. And I knew you'd hate it, nesgirl, so I deleted it. But not anymore, and now I am the one with my foot in my mouth for some reason!
HAGART wrote: OOPS! :P I was actually razzing Snaggle. And deleted it after about 3 minutes! I might as well re-post it now.
All I said was:
In the dream world Snaggle thinks women are more generous with their bodies. In the real world Snaggle has his foot in his mouth! :D
(But I also admitted that I am the same in dreams, and I even mentioned that I was going to piss off Nesgirl)
Correct me if I'm wrong but that was almost EXACTLY what I wrote, just 3 lines like that. And I knew you'd hate it, nesgirl, so I deleted it. But not anymore, and now I am the one with my foot in my mouth for some reason!
Maybe it is because some women are in fact kind of cushy in their nature, you might think of them as teddy bears you want to hug. However a woman's nature doesn't mean that they are stuffed animals for you to cuddle. And I get to you that the opposite gender has a much different appearance than you are used to. We even smell different, sound different, and we have a bit of a different skin texture. Despite our gender, we are still human, and we deserve to be treated as equals.
You want to use your hands? Get a PHD, and become a masseuse. You can then use your hands to massage most of the body and then you'll even get paid for it.
We even smell different, sound different, and we have a bit of a different skin texture.
I am grateful for that..
Despite our gender, we are still human, and we deserve to be treated as equals.
Yip - agree with this one
But men and women are not the same. They behave differently by nature. They are also physically quite different. They also play different roles in reproduction. Women tend to be more emotional. Men tend to be funnier. Both are interested in different things. Just saying. B-)
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Summerlander wrote: But men and women are not the same. They behave differently by nature. They are also physically quite different. They also play different roles in reproduction. Women tend to be more emotional. Men tend to be funnier. Both are interested in different things. Just saying. B-)
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We are the same. We are both human. Just because we are different in shape doesn't mean we are that different from each other. And remember I am anti-romance, so therefore that doesn't matter. Not all women are overemotional, tomboys tend to show very little emotion. And some women can be very funny, especially if they are tomboys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ekLcUyDWaU). And I wouldn't say all women are completely interested in different things: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tomboy
And in case you haven't noticed, I don't exactly have too much of those girly behaviors most my gender has.
Notice how I have carefully worded my statement to include words like "tend." :D
LOL - of course
very good. go to go for a while.
Summerlander, can we Skype for a short call sometime? I will pm contacts if you want to
Sometime. Yeah. I don't even have Skype. How do I sign up? Lol. I know jack about that. :-D
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Google it. Hate to be that guy, but yeah.
okey-dokey. :-D
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