nesgirl and Summerlander

Summerlander likes to educate and in his reply to nesgirl he can do that. and the two doing it so well that I thought already both are one person :lol: In my long life I have done and seen a lot, and I am sure love is here to stay. Holding your beloved in your arms and whispering nonsense, feeling wonderful, is there anything greater?. Not for me I cherish those memories. If nesgirl is really having the life she describes I wish with my heart that a miracle will happen and she gets introduced to real love. For Summerlander I wish that he becomes a bit more tolerant towards the other persons point of view. I like the saying: There are three sides to every story: Yours mine and the trues. I hope that is not wishful thinking on my part. :)

I don't need attention drawn on me or anyone's pity. If you seriously wanted to discuss our personal, you could have just contacted Summerland or me instead of complaining about our issues. Aromance is real, and if you don't believe me: http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Aromantic . Some people simply lack the ability to feel love and they have no desire to feel that type of love.

Oh and BTW, if you want to hold something in your arms, why not buy a pet? I could definitely agree that it definitely feels nice to hold a cat or a dog in your arms. Pets are wonderful loyal companions who will stay by your side no matter what. I have 2 cats, and they are by far, probably the best friends I could ever have. Look at this video and you cannot tell me how much more loyal a pet would be than a partner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5DXGIC8s8

Hi Erichsa! You are right about me. I do like to educate people and also like it when people tell me something new. Perhaps I do need to be more tolerant of people and I will take that on board.

Your suspicion of the two of us being the same person, however, will misguide you. We are two different people with different opinions, I can assure you. Lately I've been thinking about how me and her disagree so I decided to create a thread where the two of us can sensibly lay our cards on the table in order to reach some sort of conclusion.

Nesgirl will have had life experiences which differ from mine and that explains our differing perspectives. She's got her reasons for her stance and I've got mine. I'm trying to understand where she's coming from and I can see she's replied, which is a good thing. I will certainly examine the information she's given me and others are quite welcome to join that debate.

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Nesgirl:if you want to hold something in your arms, why not buy a pet? Nesgirl I love animals and humans. In my life animals came to me and I looked with love after a variety of animals. But I also make human friends easily, and for that reason find it hard that some persons think the cant make friends.
A friend of mine send me a book: the elephant whisperer. by Lawrence Anthony. google him and see what Wikipedia writes about him. This man knew how to love. I spend most of my live in South Africa and of course feel strongly about this book. We all have our outlook on life, I look for joy and harmony, and love my life. Once in a while I think of our planet in relation to the present known universe, and know that we have a lot of exploring to do, and lucid dreaming is part of it. :)

You must admire erichsa's outlook, nesgirl. It seems like a positive, if not optimistic, one. I know we all like a good moan and we can all be cynical, but there are niceties to be sought and a richness about the world which is enough to evoke levels of appreciation on our part.

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I admire you all's willingness to spend all this time and effort being nesgirl's psychiatrists/group therapy circle. Like erichsa, I also don't really understand the animal bit. Animals are no more "loyal" than humans, right? Especially cats lol. Well, that's my highly considered, inspired response. Cya :D

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Animals are inferior to humans in every respect. And I will append that the more complex the organism, the higher the level of suffering. Sure, all living things should be spared of suffering, but if there is one species on this planet that deserves compassion, that is homo sapiens. We are so conscious and we understand so many things; our minds can be so noisy, so convoluted; our bicameral brains so slapdash and conflicting; our emotions so powerful as well as our bonds to everything we hold dear; our higher-order intentionalities sometimes plaguing, our many relationships begotten by a warped psychology and quirks that we did not pick - all these things which animals are incapable of even contemplating make me feel sorry for humankind.

Someone once pointed out that animals have never caused anything like the devastation in Hiroshima. Well, that's because animals are not rational or smart enough to create an atomic bomb. But all one has to do to witness the callous carnage in the animal kingdom is to switch to National Geographic or the Discovery channel. Take a look. No dialogues or compromise for they are incapable of this. Just kill or be killed. And about atomic bombs... Who's to say that chimps, dogs, or even beavers will not evolve into sophisticated killing machines capable of inventing something far worse than the grotesque mushroom cloud? Perhaps give them just a few million years...

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nesgirl wrote: Aromance is real, and if you don't believe me: http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Aromantic

I read your link. Many people don't fully understand it which must be frustrating for you. I realize now that asexual and aromantic are actually two separate things. I don't know of anyone in my life like that, but in fiction, in the show, "The Big Bang Theory", Sheldon Cooper is aromantic isn't he?

But still values friends as long as they don't cross him.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Sheldon Cooper paints an imagine of what I believe aromance to be.

I feel like I must of missed something which caused this thread.

nesgirl and Summerlander are 2 very different people, I dont know how anyone could see them as being one. The thing which is most alike thou with them are both have strong personalities and I think both think in a very black and white kind of way. Both are very sure of their own thoughts too :)

I think i have those qualities too.

taniaaust1 wrote: I dont know how anyone could see them as being one.

It could be the Enra Traz incident that casts doubt. ;) :lol:

taniaaust1 wrote: I feel like I must of missed something which caused this thread.

They like long winded debates with each other and I think Erichsa was trying to get everyone along is all. They both live and love to argue, but can tell they are 'friends' as far as I define it. I am very grey-minded. ;)

Well, you had a little time for me when you addressed me in a thread that, stupidly enough, bears my name. So that's good enough for me. ;-)

My feelings about Megaman remain, though. :mrgreen:

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Red Rover, Red Rover, we got someone to come over. ;)

From Calais to Dover.

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horse radish

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Yeah, isn't it fun... :-D

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DeschainXIX is Vapidphobic. You heard me!

I'm just a registered vapid-o-phile and need to be jailed for my blatant, wanton disregard for intellectualism.

A canny criticism.

I've noticed it, too. It stems, probably, from what infantile rejection of oblivion and mortality I've yet to transcend--the most regrettable aspect of biology is the salient and pervasive issue of "self-preservation." I eschew the mediocre and condemn the lackadaisical--however beautiful. I glorify the preternatural and romanticize the exceptional--however ugly. I am satiated with the human's primal tendency toward * der Wille zur Macht*. In this sense I have all the naïveté of a hipster.

By the way, my comment about the thread's vapidity was intended to be an ironically self-deprecating blargh designed to stimulate conversation; it wasn't a serious complaint. I feel like anytime anyone needs to communicate anything, it should have a disclaimer: Some meaning has been lost in translation. Dialogue--what a failure it is!

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I just watched a Steve Jones Enlightenment lecture at the University of Edinburgh on Youtube. He's a geneticist and malacologist from Wales who has also published a book, which I'm about to read, called "Darwin's Island."

In his early teens, reading was already his favourite hobby (Charles Dickens, Charles Darwin, and a wide variety of subjects). His father was an acquaintance of Dylan Thomas so young Jones was also inspired in his literacy. Listening to Jones at the podium is always a learning experience. It's interesting to learn about the diversity of the human genome; about the fact that we have been an endangered species for most of our history prior to the population explosion; and thay every time a man has sex, NESGIRL, :mrgreen: he can produce enough sperm to fertilise every woman in Europe. I couldn't resist to put this out there...

I thought I'd spice things up. This thread is anything but vapid. It can be interesting, full of banter, educational, and controversial... ;-)

Fornicate with prudish Megaman! :mrgreen:

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Summerlander is being lascivious and "pornographic" again. How dare he mention a scientific fact about the hyper-concentrated fertility of male ejactulatory fluid and the male’s primal drive to expend as much of it as possible? In honor of “50 Shades of Grey” (a poorly-done film based on the pulp fiction series that was originally a “Twilight” fanfiction), here’s a cool recent biological discovery: In a certain Brazilian species of cave louse, the females extend a skinny, phallus-like structure to collect sperm from the males. Looks like the female is the one doing the obscene act of rape in this species. How’s that for your injunctive, abecedarian misandry, nesgirl?

What I found particularly funny was how our friendly-neighborhood fascist asexual elitist didn't pick up on a single iota of the irony in my calling Hagart a suidae. She… :lol: she actually thought I was serious. :lol:

Sounds like an interesting read. I’m about to buy “The Anatomy of Violence: The Biological Roots of Crime,” by Adrian Raine (Richard Perry University Professor of Criminology and Psychiatry in the Department of Criminology), a book that can only be fascinating with a title like that. Criminology is a subject of great interest to me.

I read Megaman recently and was expecting to find lots of graphic pornography here. I'm disappointed. :cry: (I'll read Megaman later and see why my joke is misconstrued into an admission of guilt that I'm a rapist.)

I hope I don't incur the wrath of nesgirl the way she is planning to fight you two guys with her self defense Karate, but if I'm part of the group of misfits then I'm Larry, Summerlander is Curly, and DeschainXIX is Moe.

Moe can be a little mean at times. Curly is the main star. Larry is useless and forgettable. He's not worth watching, or fighting.

( I read more and realize it's only Moe that she's afraid of because of the "How to Commit Violent Crimes" book he's planning to read, so I'm safe. Phew! )

Well! With that last comment, HAGART, you've smoothly excused yourself from the select number of users who are worthy of respect. :mrgreen:

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Oh boy! I guess that must mean a seat is available in that coveted group!

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Hohoh?

I just got pwned!

Yep! :mrgreen:

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deschainXIX wrote: Yep! :mrgreen:

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I would like to turn it back at you and point out that Hagart is the most respectful person on this forum, and he bears no malice for anyone. Disliking him will only lower everybody else's opinion of you.

How subtle and witty. :lol: What are you people on about? I like Hagart as a person fine. It’s hilarious how you sort of haphazardly lump intellectual disregard and personal contempt together as one.

It seems that you all are righteously offended--perhaps I should spell things out for you. I would say that capriciously accusing someone of aspiring to murder simply for reading a book is pretty malicious, and impetuously so.

I’m bemused as to what goes on in these people’s heads. I suppose they see the words “violence” and “crime” and after a few minutes of staring at the screen with a blank expression, their mind vomits, “Dat guy want to kill peeple an comit crim.” It’s remarkable I have to say this for you, but it’s a medical science book written by a distinguished psychologist that uses modern neurology to analyze the roots of humanity’s violent and criminal impulses--and subsequently how we can combat neurological depravity and solve the problem of “evil.”

How does one leap from “The Anatomy of Violence: The Biology of Crime,” to “How to Commit Violent Crimes”? What goes on in your strange little minds? :lol: Anyway … that is what I meant by intellectual disrespect. :D

I see now.

I was letting you know what nesgirl wrote in the Megaman thread and was making a joke about that. She was the one who misconstrued what you said and was gearing up for battle, due to the 'violent' book you were planning to read, and I just had to point that out.

I'm getting confused and don't know who's sarcastic and who's serious anymore!

So... lice have their own "lady boys" in Brazil! Chicks with dicks, eh? I see what excites you. And you lecture me on my male potency effusions... :mrgreen:

I like psychology and criminology too. Nesgirl is a good subject to study! ;-)

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I momentarily forgot all about this thread. Hagart, the way you said it made it sound like you were succumbing to nesgirl's libelous delusions like everyone else (I still don't see how others still just take nesgirl seriously on a whim rather than checking the facts), and I got pissed that you would do that. :lol:

Yeah, nature is really pansexual, isn't it? There is no sexual dichotomy among many species like those Brazilian lice and the seahorse. Actually, Sigmund Freud indicated that he thought all humans are attracted to both genders but most have their feelings for the other or same gender repressed (which explains a lot of heterosexual males who find chicks with dicks uncomfortably arousing, or at least confusing). So, if we're going to be scientific, bisexuals are really the ones most in-tune to their true natures. :D

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"Quote" Actually, Sigmund Freud indicated that he thought all humans are attracted to both genders but most have their feelings for the other or same gender repressed (which explains a lot of heterosexual males who find chicks with dicks uncomfortably arousing, or at least confusing). So, if we're going to be scientific, bisexuals are really the ones most in-tune to their true natures. "End of Quote"

I would rather you say Wikipedia is your source of information instead of Freud Image

Sorry, what? I think I read that about Freud in a Huffington Post article actually.

It's funny that this is all you ever have to contribute to discussion. You keep up with the thread and occasionally hop in to make a crude comment about me. I guess I really hurt your feelings somewhere along the way. Anyway, each time you amaze me with your simplicity and a dead-eyed brevity. Go somewhere else with your pointless, infantile hatred. :D

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