How to Dream share?

Imagine it. A world where people go to sleep and instead of just waking up they lucid dream and connect with friends who are also lucid dreaming. If you think lucid dreaming alone is fun, then just imagine lucid dreaming with your friends. This is the art of dream sharing and with a little bit of practice anyone could do it even non-lucid dreamers.But the problem for dream sharing is that it is limited to people you know well. Now my proposal is, why can't whole groups of random strangers just tune into one dream and do things as if the were on the internet. It is all just brain waves and frequencies which is basically what the internet is. I would love if some of you guys that have maybe shared dreams or are just experienced LD'ers tell me what you think of this and suggestions so that I can make a tutorial for everyone to use. Thanks

gleixer wrote: It is all just brain waves and frequencies

Not strictly true, and definitely not proven. Personally I believe what you are proposing is possible, but you are jumping to conclusions here by assuming things that haven't been scientifically verified.

I agree with Torakrubik, you are jumping to conclusions.

Firstly it is unlikely to happen unless you have a close connection to the person eg a family member, best friend.

Secondly you need to be asleep at the same time and in the right kind of dream state to be able to dream together.

Thirdly.. I personally dont know anyone who can "dream" share at will.. the dream Ive shared with my daughter happened randomly and her being hurt in her dream (she was being attacked) some how pulled me into her dream. So it seems strong emotions help this to happen dream sharing thing to occcur. Im not saying thou it isnt possible to do at will but that seems to be a very rare skill. Ive known people who can astrally thou meet at will and did that a lot (a couple of my past teachers and some of their students used to do this).

Maybe being in close proximity in location helps too eg same bedroom or close by, the only time Ive had dream sharing is when someone has been close by sleeping (then you both have auric fields overlapping which I'd think would help transmit thoughts eg ones dream to one another better)

So anyway..I think it is unlikely people here could get this happening. (I group of experienced astral projection people possibly could do this thou so if you want to meet others while out of body I suggest to find a AP site who has some experienced AP people there to try things with).

I think that we should remain skeptical and scientific with dream shearing. Although coming from a buddhist perspective where stories of great masters entering disciples dreams are very common i do think that its very easy to mistake similar dreams with dream sharing.

I hope this develops well over the years =)

TaTa wrote: I think that we should remain skeptical and scientific with dream shearing. Although coming from a buddhist perspective where stories of great masters entering disciples dreams are very common i do think that its very easy to mistake similar dreams with dream sharing.

I hope this develops well over the years =)

Just in real life it isnt necessarily hard to know if people had the same dream or if it was just a similar one IF BOTH very clearly remember the dream. It would be an issue thou if people didnt clearly remember the dream.. eg did both remember the DCs and what they looked like, the location and what it looks like, the actions of everyone in the dream. When I dream shared we dreamed exactly the same moment of time too and woke up both from the same dream at the same time.

But yeah.. if one dreams of something and the memories are vague when comparing the dreams eg if you both dreamed of each other being in an earthquake but dont remember details of it, it could just be coincidental but if both remember all the details and they match, I dont so think so. (Its just like in real life.. you both know if you experienced the same thing or not on talking about it and discussing the event).

I saw a video once of ReeceJones where he said he have a friend that made an experiment, where he told his friend that tonight they will lucid dream about each other and they will get a key word from the dream, and then the next day they will tell each other what is the key word and if it match, and it did...

I don't remmember exactly how he told the story, but I think this is the basic of it, very interesting.

Is dream sharing actually possible? because my best friend and I are learning to lucid dream together and wanted to share dreams. We weren't sure if it could actually happen but we planned out what we would dream when we had both mastered lucid dreaming.

[quote][/quote]Is dream sharing actually possible? because my best friend and I are learning to lucid dream together and wanted to share dreams. We weren't sure if it could actually happen but we planned out what we would dream when we had both mastered lucid dreaming

Yes if you believe "Richard Bach, The Bridge Across Forever" He did it with his wife, ( I mean Dream sharing ) I am inclined to believe him. I also think Stephen La Berge writes about proven Dream sharing, but I cant remember in which of his books. Perhaps some on can help. Wishing you success and fun with lucid dreaming. :)

cheer_princess wrote: Is dream sharing actually possible? because my best friend and I are learning to lucid dream together and wanted to share dreams. We weren't sure if it could actually happen but we planned out what we would dream when we had both mastered lucid dreaming.

It's not really clear one way or the other. Scientifically, there is no reason why it should be possible, but many people swear blind that they have experienced it. Personally I am also inclined to think that it is possible, though I have not, to my knowledge, experienced it.

torakrubik wrote:

gleixer wrote:It is all just brain waves and frequencies

Not strictly true, and definitely not proven. Personally I believe what you are proposing is possible, but you are jumping to conclusions here by assuming things that haven't been scientifically verified.

And you know what they say... "Assuming makes an ass out of you and me "

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to do it. I do believe that it's possible though. Too many people have claimed experiencing it for it to be impossible. I'd love to know how as well. I can tell you from what I've read some people say that it isn't something you can control or choose to do, which I don't entirely believe. Others say that with practice it is easily done.

I've seen a few claims that is done via astral projection, and you must project your "self" into another persons dreamscape. Other accounts say astral and dream planes aren't connected and dream sharing is done by lucid dreaming, visualizing your connection with the other person (to ensure you aren't fabricating a DC), and then creating a dream portal to that person's dream.

These are all only things I've read though. If I accomplish it or find more detailed instruction somewhere I'll post back with it.

The real world functions independently from our desires.

You might want dream sharing to exist, but there is no scientific mechanism supporting this idea.

LucidityMaster wrote: The real world functions independently from our desires.

You might want dream sharing to exist, but there is no scientific mechanism supporting this idea.

and there is nothing in science which can completely rule it out either! A lack of scientific evidence, doesnt prove that something doesnt exist.

Sigh.....

As a matter of fact, all fields of science demonstrate that dream sharing is impossible.

The brain is where consciousness lies, and it cannot co-exist in two different brains at once.

What is there not to understand?

Or is it simply that you don't want to understand?

I imagine dream sharing being like the internet. The only flaw, it is not possible.

LucidityMaster wrote: The brain is where consciousness lies, and it cannot co-exist in two different brains at once.

That has never been proven. Consciousness lies within the mind, which is not synonymous with the brain. I believe this energy transcends time and space. It is tapped into by legit psychics, all over the globe, so why is it so hard to believe you cannot connect it with the person in your bedroom, or whomever.

tpratt wrote: I've seen a few claims that is done via astral projection, and you must project your "self" into another persons dreamscape. Other accounts say astral and dream planes aren't connected and dream sharing is done by lucid dreaming, visualizing your connection with the other person (to ensure you aren't fabricating a DC), and then creating a dream portal to that person's dream. .

Thanks. I'd heard of that many years ago and forgot about that astral projection technique of getting into someones dreams. It's something some shamans do. It would be interesting to try some time.

I'm by no means an avid lucid dreamer but I have thought about the possibility of dream sharing in the same way that the internet works. And yes it is possible. In fact it might be much closser than you may think. The technology exists to connect two people together over the internet and have them controll each others body with their own brain signals. Since this technology exists there is no boubt that one could use the same technology to transmit their brain signals into anothers when dreaming. Or even to but them into a computer created charachter inside of a "dream server". While this may sound cool this isn't quite lucid dreaming. More like extreeme virtual reality. Also imagine if people got adicted to this dream technology and only wanted to do it instead of praticipate in reality? Also imagine if a hacker got access to this dream server. He could controll everyone's bodies that are connected to it and even kill them. As cool and realistic as it sounds I doubt that it will become a thing withought heavy debate first.

I've had very oddly similar dreams as other people, but not once I don't think I can recall having the SAME dream as someone else. However I do strongly think it is possible. I had a good friend that claims she was having a normal dream and then there was a portal and so she walked through it and was lucid in someone else's dream. And when they both saw each other the next day they both confirmed it, and as I know both of these people well, I know that it is true. Very possible, but probably not easily achieved. I have experimented with this, but all attempts have so far come back unsuccessful. :|

I tried this once with a group of people who were in different countries. We agreed on a time and even a location for our experiment. We'd all try around the same time and then project ourselves to the Notre Dame cathedral. Some of us had dreams about the cathedral, because we worked ourselves up for this weeks in advance; a few swore they went there, but they told different tales of the experience. In short, we couldn't really do it and I always had my doubts about those who said they were there at the agreed time.

Alvar wrote: I tried this once with a group of people who were in different countries. We agreed on a time and even a location for our experiment. We'd all try around the same time and then project ourselves to the Notre Dame cathedral. Some of us had dreams about the cathedral, because we worked ourselves up for this weeks in advance; a few swore they went there, but they told different tales of the experience. In short, we couldn't really do it and I always had my doubts about those who said they were there at the agreed time.

That probably isn't at all a good way to try dream sharing as I assume all it would do is incubate dreams of the cathedral and of the others being there, seeing they worked themselves up weeks in advance. To dream share you also should have a strong emotional connection to the other after all you are linking to their minds. This would of been near guaranteed to fail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_telepathy

It seems dream telepathy has been experimented with and found impossible. I know they wire people's heads up to computers. I've wondered what would happen if you did the same thing but instead connected 2 people together. I imagine it would either do very little or be extremely dangerous. What if you had no control over what you sent to the other person? What if the connection was so good you involuntarily became one? You could suffer permanent damage. Obviously the solution from there is to use a computer as a middle man. The computer could filter your connection and make sure what passes is safe. But science has not reached enough of an understanding of the brain for that yet.

So although sharing dreams would be great it seems impossible as of yet.

Although I'm single I've thought about what it would be like for couples. If they both know how to lucid dream that would be cool but you're not really sharing the experience you know?

I recommend the following article -

"Mutual dreaming, an experiment during the IASD's annual ..." - vandoornondreams.wordpress.com - van Doorn on dreaming!