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How often are you LDing?

Started May 6, 2013, 02:59 PM22 posts
on May 6, 2013, 02:59 PM
#1

I'm wondering how often you all LD. Hoping to get some sort of 'average' comparison.

I'm averaging once a week, and think it's ok, but wish I could do more than that. It seems that I don't during the work week ( gosh; wonder why :roll: ). Is once a week a low number? What is 'average'?

I had a nice long one last night/ will post later as I'm just off to work. I seem to be getting good length, but still just once a week ( on weekends; kind of like a weekend getaway I guess).

on May 6, 2013, 03:15 PM
#2

I also get around 2/3 LDs per week and yes the chance of having a LD at weekends is greater for me.

on May 6, 2013, 03:30 PM
#3

I'm like you, mia. I have an average of 1 per week, and it's on Saturday mornings. During work week is more difficult, but sometimes i get one LD in those days. From my point of view, 1 per week is pretty good.

on May 6, 2013, 04:12 PM
#4

Me, 1 LD per 2 months. But it will change now, cuz with the new method SSILD, i will get 2 or more LD per 5 day haha :lol:

on May 6, 2013, 08:16 PM
#5

Normally once or twice a week for me, almost always at weekends as I can manage my sleep cycle much better then. Unfortunately aside from a few seconds last night, I am experiencing a dry spell at the moment.

on May 6, 2013, 09:45 PM
#6

I've got five years of practice (not including the out-of-bodies, false awakenings and brief lucid periods as a child).

On average, 6-7 full-fledged long-lasting lucid dreams and bearing in mind that on certain nights I manage to re-enter the lucid dream world several times after a collapse. Oh yeah, forgot to mention: 6-7 per month discounting brief experiences.

I have managed to record around 400 lucid dreams (some DILDs, WILDs/OOBEs)

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on May 6, 2013, 10:57 PM
#7

I only started 2 months ago and had only 3 that lasted less than a minute. I can't believe you guys have them every week, either you have a lot of experience either I'm still doing something not totally right :|

on May 6, 2013, 11:52 PM
#8

Don't be dismayed. It's experience and practice. I first found out about induction methods when I discovered Robert Monroe. But the method described in his first book is primitive compared to Stephen LaBerge's (get some of this guy's literature if you haven't already). Michael Raduga's "The Phase" guidebook also helped me a lot with techniques for deepening, maintaining and managing the phase state (lucid dreaming/out-of-body experiences).

You'll get better with time. Stay positive. Experiment first and see what works best for you.

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on May 7, 2013, 12:14 AM
#9

Summerlander; I am currently just beginning reading Stephen LaBerge's book; does he talk about re-entering the LD after a collapse? Or is it Michael Raduga's book that addresses that? It's something I need to learn how to do. (And do you still need to practise daytime reality checks etc once you reach your level of proficiency?)

on May 7, 2013, 12:32 AM
#10

Laberge talks about all forms of induction but it is Raduga that stresses the importance of multiple re-entries. He says a foul (undesired exit from the phase state) does not have to be the end of the experience.

He recommends separating from the body as many times as you can and carrying out steps of an interesting plan of action in the lucid dream world. Recording the experience comes later when you are absolutely done.

I'd say read both authors. LaBerge covers a lot of psychology and his dream schemas theory gives you a great insight into how dreams work.

If you use the separation technique to enter the lucid dream world you don't really need to do reality checks during the day. I only do reality checks once in a while if I plan to experience the thrill of realising that I'm dreaming that comes with DILDs. But even when I don't do reality checks and use the WILD method instead, I find myself having DILDs too just by thinking about lucid dreaming during the day.

I've done a lot of stuff though, from experimenting with creating a dream workshop to dream cartography. At the beginning I used to have my deceased stepfather as a lucid dream friend - one of my first lucid dreaming uses in my practice was to help me get over his death - but now I've moved on.

There is so much I could tell you but I am writing a book called "To Lucidity and Beyond". There is a lot more experimenting to do.

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on May 7, 2013, 01:02 AM
#11

Well, it sounds fascinating. Thanks for the info Summerlander. I've been LDing fairly regularly ( naturally)most of my life, and managed some control of situations and dreamscapes, but never realized, until very recently, how much more there could be. I'm still quite a novice though. I will search out the other book by Raguga as well. Looking forward to yours! :)

on May 7, 2013, 08:05 AM
#12

It's always fascinating when we're dealing with consciousness and the realm of the mind. :-)

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on May 7, 2013, 04:41 PM
#13

not very often for me

on May 8, 2013, 11:34 PM
#14

Just about every day :)

Gratitude!

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on May 9, 2013, 01:15 AM
#15

LucidLink wrote: Just about every day :)

Gratitude!

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EVERY DAY?????? HOW'D YOU MANAGE THAT??????????? luckyyyyyyyy

on May 9, 2013, 02:37 AM
#16

Laberge talks about all forms of induction but it is Raduga that stresses the importance of multiple re-entries. He says a foul (undesired exit from the phase state) does not have to be the end of the experience.

Re-entries are something Ive been working on for the past few months. I managed one of those successfully last night and at times have done up to 4-5 reentries into the same dream (after drop outs). ........

Im currently having about 3 spontanous LDs per fortnight. (I dont do reality checking). Unfortunately thou my LDs currently are being frustratingly short often not leaving me time to do my challenges (hence my often need to reenter). Last nights on the reentry.. I only got walking 3 steps before I dropped out again without warning. oh well.. the bright side is at least Im getting a lot of reentry practice.

on May 9, 2013, 04:06 AM
#17

LucidLink wrote: Just about every day :)

Gratitude!

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on May 9, 2013, 11:31 AM
#18

That's right, tania. It's very easy to foul. All it can take is for someone to think about the physical body to trigger a return. It is also important to perform protraction techniques during the experience - the most effective ones tend to rely on sensory amplification. When you're not doing this, focus on carrying out a planned mission.

By the way, I'm only coming from Raduga's school of out-of-body travel, guys, I understand if you are used to doing things in a slightly different way.

I may advocate re-entry into the phase (LDs/OOBEs), and it's really good practice because if a DILD collapses you can always re-enter using the separation technique, but I don't always practice what I preach...

For instance, this morning I made my kids breakfast and went back to bed for a quick nap before taking the to school. I lay in bed next to my wife and was not even thinking about lucid dreaming. After a lapse in consciousness I came to and heard what sounded like my eldest son coming in the room and complaining about something but could not make out what he was saying...

Of course, this was a bogus event concocted purely in the mind and I soon realised that because it was so unlike my son. So, I got up and looked at me and my wife in bed. The bedding was white instead of blue and when I looked at my hands and arms they were transparent. I floated over the bed and was amazed by the three-dimensionality of this bedroom environment. I had no plan so I decided to focus on flying out of the house. I enjoyed flying over roofs and treetops under a clear blue sky and landed to inspect the front garden of a house. I jingled some chimes hanging on the side of the house and then remembered that I still had to take the kids to school. My desire to return was sufficient to make me immediately wake up in bed...

In this case, re-entering would not be ideal. If this had happened at the weekend, then it would have been a different story. I guess it's a matter of getting our priorities right.

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on May 9, 2013, 02:37 PM
#19

Once a month :( But this week I discovered SSILD and it got me a lucid dream(possibly 2 but I don't remember) on my first try.

on May 9, 2013, 05:30 PM
#20

deepakkumaar97 wrote:

LucidLink wrote:Just about every day :)

Gratitude!

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It is possible, by using the WILD method. ;) ;) ;)

on May 10, 2013, 04:58 AM
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Jacob46719 wrote:

LucidLink wrote:Just about every day :)

Gratitude!

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EVERY DAY?????? HOW'D YOU MANAGE THAT??????????? luckyyyyyyyy

I believe it's because I didn't learn to LD, I developed it naturally as a child, and this leads to a kind of rare permanent lucidity.

So for the most part, I can LD every night thanks to "luck" :) I don't even use techniques except WBTB haha

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on May 10, 2013, 07:45 AM
#22

I'm not saying anything. Lol.

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