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large hadron collider

Started Mar 27, 2015, 10:42 PM13 posts
on Mar 27, 2015, 10:42 PM
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They are going to turn on the LHC next week and try to detect black holes. If they are detected, it would prove different dimensions and parallel universes. Do you think that dreams/lucid dreams would be explored more because of this?

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on Mar 28, 2015, 01:07 AM
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What? Black holes have already been detected. Their existence does not prove other dimensions or parallel universes either. Also, what the flipping heck does lucid dreaming have to do with this?

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on Mar 28, 2015, 02:48 AM
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Its too much to explain, you would have to read up on it. I know black holes are dectected already. im talking about an experiment that is going to take place next week in Switzerland . If parallel universes are discovered, who's to say that dreams arent a gateway to that dimension?

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on Mar 28, 2015, 02:49 AM
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Theres a new theory called gravitys rainbow. Which would prove different dimensions. ....

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on Mar 28, 2015, 02:55 AM
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Google: Large hadron collider

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on Mar 28, 2015, 07:18 AM
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While the existence of other dimensions seems to certainly be a strong scientific possibility their effect on or likelihood of being effected by lucid dreams seems unlikely. Might be some great material for future lucid dreams though. I love science in my dreams. :mrgreen:

on Mar 28, 2015, 11:34 AM
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It think you are misconstruing experiments involving quark-gluon plasma and how their sophistication could possibly allude to supersymmetric extentions of reality. A multiverse, given the nature of quantum mechanics, may well be the case, but we are yet to prove it.

"Gravity's Rainbow" is a novel full of metaphysics to overawe science-fiction fans. (Who are you trying to gull?) :-D

Lucid dreaming is a conscious phenomenon that arises in the brain as part of the cerebral software that also includes waking perception. You don't get to travel to other universes when you dream (that's right, no multidimensional man :mrgreen: ) and, if you were really into theoretical physics, you would know that such hypothetical universes have long decohered from our own--hence why our best clues can only be found at the roots of reality: quantum physics. 8-)

I believe I have opened a topic about this called "Quantum mechanical dream world" where I entertain the possibility that lucid dreaming is the colouring in of empty templates for worlds that never materialised in this reality. In essence, such hypothesis does not grant a real trip to different objective worlds, just a mental, and thus subjective, creation of what could have manifested, coupled with our subconscious baggage, and, as the illusion is unconstrained by physical laws, allowing absurdity, too, such as flying like Superman. (More like worlds that could never be!) :-)

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on Mar 30, 2015, 02:35 AM
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buildit wrote: While the existence of other dimensions seems to certainly be a strong scientific possibility their effect on or likelihood of being effected by lucid dreams seems unlikely. Might be some great material for future lucid dreams though. I love science in my dreams. :mrgreen: I love doing science in my dreams too. Im in a philosophical stage in my dreams.

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on Mar 31, 2015, 05:23 AM
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Summerlander wrote: It think you are misconstruing experiments involving quark-gluon plasma and how their sophistication could possibly allude to supersymmetric extentions of reality. A multiverse, given the nature of quantum mechanics, may well be the case, but we are yet to prove it.

"Gravity's Rainbow" is a novel full of metaphysics to overawe science-fiction fans. (Who are you trying to gull?) :-D

Lucid dreaming is a conscious phenomenon that arises in the brain as part of the cerebral software that also includes waking perception. You don't get to travel to other universes when you dream (that's right, no multidimensional man :mrgreen: ) and, if you were really into theoretical physics, you would know that such hypothetical universes have long decohered from our own--hence why our best clues can only be found at the roots of reality: quantum physics. 8-)

I believe I have opened a topic about this called "Quantum mechanical dream world" where I entertain the possibility that lucid dreaming is the colouring in of empty templates for worlds that never materialised in this reality. In essence, such hypothesis does not grant a real trip to different objective worlds, just a mental, and thus subjective, creation of what could have manifested, coupled with our subconscious baggage, and, as the illusion is unconstrained by physical laws, allowing absurdity, too, such as flying like Superman. (More like worlds that could never be!) :-)

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Fair enough... i agree to an extent, i have to study quantum physics more To get a better grasp at the whole thing.

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on Mar 31, 2015, 05:26 AM
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dreamerinmiami wrote:

Summerlander wrote:It think you are misconstruing experiments involving quark-gluon plasma and how their sophistication could possibly allude to supersymmetric extentions of reality. A multiverse, given the nature of quantum mechanics, may well be the case, but we are yet to prove it.

"Gravity's Rainbow" is a novel full of metaphysics to overawe science-fiction fans. (Who are you trying to gull?) :-D

Lucid dreaming is a conscious phenomenon that arises in the brain as part of the cerebral software that also includes waking perception. You don't get to travel to other universes when you dream (that's right, no multidimensional man :mrgreen: ) and, if you were really into theoretical physics, you would know that such hypothetical universes have long decohered from our own--hence why our best clues can only be found at the roots of reality: quantum physics. 8-)

I believe I have opened a topic about this called "Quantum mechanical dream world" where I entertain the possibility that lucid dreaming is the colouring in of empty templates for worlds that never materialised in this reality. In essence, such hypothesis does not grant a real trip to different objective worlds, just a mental, and thus subjective, creation of what could have manifested, coupled with our subconscious baggage, and, as the illusion is unconstrained by physical laws, allowing absurdity, too, such as flying like Superman. (More like worlds that could never be!) :-)

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Fair enough... i agree to an extent, i have to study quantum physics more To get a better grasp on the whole thing.

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on Mar 31, 2015, 01:23 PM
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I'm only an armchair physicist with a strong interest in quantum mechanics. Some people argue that quantum mechanics play a role in generating consciousness in the brain. I'm not so sure.

I would say a Penrosian-Tonomian model in the brain begets conscious experiences to different degrees. This means that quantum mechanics alone cannot do the job unless atoms and molecules have been arranged in a manner as complex and connected as the human brain.

Whether this permits us to catch glimpses of parallel universes or other dimensions is still hypothetical. I am not denying your proposal completely, I'm just urging you not to jump to conclusions because you have all your work ahead of you in order to formulate a rich theory (if this is even possible down the route your taking) that can be tested.

But it's certainly okay for you to be open-minded. I could even give you a tip on where to start...

Fact: Scientists are trying to detect the WIMP particles that make up dark matter here on earth. This is very hard when we observe that baryonic matter atoms constantly vibrate, and, seen as we can't see WIMPs we have to rely on collisions between the two to ascertain possible interactions with dark matter. We cannot observe dark matter directly.

Hypothetical: Atomic collisions, however weak and rare with WIMPs, may provide clues as to how dark matter behaves and how it may even interact with alternate realities or supersymmetrical extentions of this one. Robert Monroe even spoke of the possibility of dark matter worlds that go through our brains all the time. Perhaps we can access them when our brain waves are at 40 Hz (Gamma) when we lucid dream.

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on Apr 1, 2015, 12:25 AM
#12

Well said Summerland.

on Apr 1, 2015, 12:58 AM
#13

Thank you. 8-)

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