Dream Sharing
In this subject I am proposing a challenge: Create a method for dream sharing.
It seems obvious that this would have to be done between multiple people with deep connections to each other and they would both have to be experienced LD'ers, but just in case it's not, it is now. :D
Any research you can find on this subject is welcomed and appreciated; as are theories. Be sure to site your sources.
P.S I do not think that it is likely for there to be a method that consistently works for multiple groups of people or if it is even possible, but I think it would be both entertaining and interesting to explore this topic.
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At this website, Rebecca Turner has an interesting article about mutual dreaming. On the Home page, click tab "Articles", then Category - "Paranormal" - scroll down to article -
- "Mutual Dreaming: Is Group Dreaming Possible?"
Also, web search - article -
- "Dream Partners: An Ongoing Experiment In Lucid Dreaming Sharing" - by Maria Isabel Pita - dreamstudies.org
She may have posted that article a while ago, but even she doesn't believe it is possible.
I am going to say this, it is impossible. Even in the Multimedia industry, it has been shown numerous times that 2 minds cannot think exactly the same artistic view at the same time. While it is possible to come up with similar ideas and the exact same words, it is impossible to ever come up with the exact same landscape. Having worked in the classes and having had 2 designers attempt to design the exact same project several times, I have to conclude it is impossible. I do consider Multimedia Design a sister to Lucid Dreaming in numerous ways as you create your own world in both of them, so this is how I got my evidence.
Since you took up the position that there is no such thing as dream sharing I must ask you: what scientific evidence do you have that dream sharing does not exist. I may have jumped to conclusions, but it seems like you based your stance on the matter solely off of personal experience.
Maybe you and your friends need to establish a deeper connection or maybe you are right; in either case I feel the need to share the Ullman and Krippner experiments. In short, one of these experiments which took place at a rock concert was successful in turning a group of people into a source of a telepathic signal. There were five people all within 100 miles of the concert who served as telepathic receivers; they were told to record their dreams at 12:00 midnight. One of the receivers recorded dreaming about a pheonix which was an item on one of the slide shows that was shown at the concert. One of the others could not sleep but thought of a large number of birds flying over water. I first heard about these experiments along with others on an article on this site; here's a link: http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/what-is-the-evidence-for-dream-telepathy.html
This could be a coincidence, but I'm not quite convinced that it is due to other studies that had similar results. If we assume that it is not a coincidence - which I will do briefly to consider all of the possibilities. This means that dream sharing is not an obtainable concept. It is now a very real possibility. The challenge is now finding two individuals who share a deep enough connection and even tougher still are experienced lucid dreamers, who could potentially pull it off.
If it is a coincidence, than this thread is meaningless and we just wasted our time. ;)
While there is no such thing as Dream Sharing, there is a such thing as chance happenings in a Lucid Dream, or as I like to call it in my own terms, Lucid Dream probability. There are several forms of it, that is one of them.
I have had numerous experiences with that form of Lucid Dream probability, and I will not deny that I haven't had such experiences in the past. I in fact wrote about one of those experiences in my online Dream Journal. You are free to read that entry if you wish. However I still believe it was a probability Lucid Dream, or a chance that it happened: http://nesgirl119.livejournal.com/27185.html
To me there is chance or probability in this world, just like people win the lottery in this world. It would seem rather peculiar if low probability didn't exist in this world, for it is because of such we exist.
TheDude wrote: In this subject I am proposing a challenge: Create a method for dream sharing.
It seems obvious that this would have to be done between multiple people with deep connections to each other and they would both have to be experienced LD'ers, but just in case it's not, it is now. :D
Any research you can find on this subject is welcomed and appreciated; as are theories. Be sure to site your sources.
P.S I do not think that it is likely for there to be a method that consistently works for multiple groups of people or if it is even possible, but I think it would be both entertaining and interesting to explore this topic.
I believe dream sharing is possible, and I have experimented in the past with dream sharing, but with little success. I think I will do some more research on this again and post sources like you said.
My biggest issue with dream sharing is not the ability of two minds to share a matrix or construct, although that does in fact create very interesting issues. No my issue is the mean of transmission and reception of the "signals" if you will. Sort of like two people with ham radios but no idea if they work, how they work or if they can receive signals. Until we better understand if and how this sort of telepathy might occur everything else is test shots in a dark room at an invisible target. :?
To nesgirl: Can you elaborate on the term you coined - lucid dream probability? I think I understand what you meant when you said this, but i would like to be sure I completely understand what you mean.
To Goldkoron: Excellent!
To buildit: That is the main reason why I made this topic: to find out if there is a way to consistently send and receive "signals"
TheDude wrote: To nesgirl: Can you elaborate on the term you coined - lucid dream probability? I think I understand what you meant when you said this, but i would like to be sure I completely understand what you mean.
Lucid Dream probability is when an event that matches real life or a chance event happens in a Lucid Dream that seems odd or almost supernatural. Because people seem to think hitting the target with cards, or something like if they had a strikingly similar Lucid Dream with someone is supernatural or has something to do with the paranormal, they may associate with such, however, because nearly all events seem to happen on a chance, and I have seen official happenings happen about as rarely as someone officially winning the lottery or scoring triple 7s on the slot machine, I have compared such rare events with probability. Having had probability Lucid Dreams myself and studied much on how probability can work, I have theories that what these few people with positive evidence are claiming are in fact true, because a person with a lottery ticket who shows proof that they have won the lottery and that they didn't cheat can win the lottery after all. The reason why people can come up with the same idea at the same time, the reason why a person can somehow dream of the future, the reason why a person could dream of an event or an object currently happening? It is all because of chance or it is all because of probability. As a person attempting to figure out programming and math, there has to be a form of low probability or chance happenings that exist within this universe in order for this universe to function properly, because if there weren't any such things as chance events within this universe, our universe wouldn't be able to function. Our own biology even runs on probability, or chance. Our own DNA was formed by probability as well. Even the big bang had a very low probability of happening. Does it seem odd then, that people having such dreams are in fact determined by a form of probability? A very low probability I might say, but it obviously still exists.
Thank you for explaining lucid dream probability. If dream sharing is completely based off of chance and has a low probability, let's try to find a way to raise the probability.
TheDude wrote: Thank you for explaining lucid dream probability. If dream sharing is completely based off of chance and has a low probability, let's try to find a way to raise the probability.
There is one form of probability that isn't as low as others you could try. Leaving a card on the counter, both you and your friend attempting to meet in a WILD at your house, and then you and your friend trying to guess the card on the counter. The odds of you successfully having this form of probability Lucid Dream are 1 in 2704. The odds of you both matching the card in real time are 1 in 140,608
What exactly is "Dream Sharing"? I can think of 2 kinds:
- You meet and talk to a person in your dream, both lucid, sharing the same dream space at the same time.
- You both report having extremely similar content in your dreams, (lucid or not), having dreamed at the same time.
The first one is the holy grail of dream sharing, but the second one, technically could be considered dream sharing too if the similarities are so astronomical each and every time it can't simply be blamed on coincidence.
To properly conduct an experiment we must all sleep at the same time. Unfortunately, we all live in different time zones and it's hard to organize a group sleep session, but there is a lot of overlap in our sleep times, so it's possible, especially with enough volunteers. Then we simply have to pick a day we all agree upon and that morning, we share our dreams we had. Remember to mark the time you went to sleep, and if/when you woke up and went back to sleep. It can then all be converted to GMT-0 depending on where you live so we know it's the same times. (I would add +5 to my sleeping times for example, and someone else, +8).
It's hard to orchestrate on a forum.
Me and Goldkoron attempted dream sharing by sharing a mutual Wake Back to Bed time, confirming we were awake through instant messaging, and then returning to sleep. It helps to have more volunteers because it increases the odds that at least 2 people will be lucid at the same time.
Unfortunately this experiment relies on trust, and anyone can be in cahoots with another volunteer, so it can never prove anything 100%, but it could be fun to attempt dream sharing somehow.
I have doubts about dream sharing, my brother is like me and we have tried a few times to meet up but no go. We will try again of course some time soon
nesgirl wrote: There is one form of probability that isn't as low as others you could try. Leaving a card on the counter, both you and your friend attempting to meet in a WILD at your house, and then you and your friend trying to guess the card on the counter. The odds of you successfully having this form of probability Lucid Dream are 1 in 2704. The odds of you both matching the card in real time are 1 in 140,608
Unfortunately, I have no one to try that with as none of my friends and/or family really cares about LDing :(.
HAGART wrote: What exactly is "Dream Sharing"? I can think of 2 kinds:
- You meet and talk to a person in your dream, both lucid, sharing the same dream space at the same time.
- You both report having extremely similar content in your dreams, (lucid or not), having dreamed at the same time.
The first one is the holy grail of dream sharing, but the second one, technically could be considered dream sharing too if the similarities are so astronomical each and every time it can't simply be blamed on coincidence.
To properly conduct an experiment we must all sleep at the same time. Unfortunately, we all live in different time zones and it's hard to organize a group sleep session, but there is a lot of overlap in our sleep times, so it's possible, especially with enough volunteers. Then we simply have to pick a day we all agree upon and that morning, we share our dreams we had. Remember to mark the time you went to sleep, and if/when you woke up and went back to sleep. It can then all be converted to GMT-0 depending on where you live so we know it's the same times. (I would add +5 to my sleeping times for example, and someone else, +8).
It's hard to orchestrate on a forum.
Me and Goldkoron attempted dream sharing by sharing a mutual Wake Back to Bed time, confirming we were awake through instant messaging, and then returning to sleep. It helps to have more volunteers because it increases the odds that at least 2 people will be lucid at the same time.
Unfortunately this experiment relies on trust, and anyone can be in cahoots with another volunteer, so it can never prove anything 100%, but it could be fun to attempt dream sharing somehow.
Maybe we could set up a skype chat where we could figure out the best time to try this with whoever would be willing to volunteer. I suggested skype because it's a lot quicker than communicating via forum.
That's what me and Goldkoron used and I've already made my account public several times, so here it is:
hagart-dreamer
We can work out the details there in a new "Share Dream" conversation topic.
Anyone can join and add me as a contact, I don't care if I make it public.
TheDude wrote:
Unfortunately, I have no one to try that with as none of my friends and/or family really cares about LDing :(.
Due to the fact the previous Lucid Dream friends I experimented on that with were asexual and the fact there was a horror story about what a romantic could do to take advantage of someone if he were Dream Sharing with them in the movie Dreamscape, I don't think I will ever attempt to experiment with anyone who isn't asexual. I've had problems with my appearance attracting a few romantic idiots before, and I am not revealing my true appearance online. If a user happened to have a probability Lucid Dream with me, and figured it out my true appearance, I am afraid they would forget for a minute I was asexual, and they would attempt to get romantically involved with me, like with that character in Dreamscape.
I hate to say it, but you're fear mongering, nesgirl. Skype is perfectly safe. It's no different than here. If you don't want to, don't get involved.
Nobody has to share their real name or picture on Skype.
It's the same as here.
And besides, isn't dream sharing impossible?
If you truly want to fear monger, I'd say the NSA will find you and kill you on Skype, but they'll do the same here, on the WOLD Forum, anyway! :lol: How is Skype worse? It's just as safe. ;)
It's just an experiment. I won't even say what I believe. I am just trying to figure out how to set one up in the first place. That's all.
That was a bad way to persuade people to join wasn't it? D'oh! :roll:
HAGART wrote: I hate to say it, but you're fear mongering, nesgirl. Skype is perfectly safe. It's no different than here. If you don't want to, don't get involved.
It's a free world and I never use my real name or picture on Skype. It's the same as here.
(It's safer than Facebook. I gave up on that! I made a joke and it got sent as an email to my mother! No more Facebook for Hagart. Live and learn.)
The NSA will still find you and kill you there on Facebook, and Skype, but they'll do the same here anyway! :lol:
You haven't even seen my true appearance (which I refuse to reveal).. And I don't go on Skype because I cannot trust that site, I have been warned about that website.
About the NSA, yes I am very well aware of their spying. The government has higher technology and science that I am sure none of us could ever imagine that they never reveal to the public, which is why I believe they can spy on naked ladies in the shower right in their own homes.
Sometimes I do very daredevil things in my Lucid Dreams as well that I would never dare to do in reality. Like modeling for a figure drawing class for example. If a romantic walks in the room, and sees a female modeling for a figure drawing class, he is probably going to do this (well I hope he would only do this): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2wzYTYkyiQ Even if it were possible, I would not want a romantic user to walk in on any of my Lucid Dreams where I am...eh modeling for an art class or doing any daredevil acts. It would give them the wrong idea.
I don't understand your fear of someone entering your dream if as you say:
nesgirl wrote: There is NO such thing as Dream Sharing.
Why not allow others to try without your concern?
HAGART wrote: I don't understand your fear of someone entering your dream if as you say:
Why not allow others to try without your concern?
There's no such thing as Dream Sharing, because that has been proven by Multimedia Design. There is a such thing as Lucid Dream probability. And Lucid Dream memorization.
If 2 people are expertized enough in Lucid Dreams and they have a high level of memorization in their Lucid Dreams (they can tell time, they can see Lucid Dream versions of real places with very high accuracy like in that SpongeBob episode), then it is likely they could have similar Lucid Dreams to each other and can even have a similar time slot. This however is not Dream Sharing nor however has anything to do with the time slot. Memorization I have studied on is a talent in the real world that can be reflected in the Lucid Dream world if a person has enough of a Lucid Dream skill. This is why I don't count those who have a high memorization level as reliable. Probability is a much more reliable source than memorization in Lucid Dreaming. While I don't believe probability is a definite answer to Dream Sharing, it will ultimately tell both people that they did have a lucky experience that night. And yes I have had probability Lucid Dreams in this respect. Probability Lucid Dreams work in which if your Lucid Dreams are similar, one of the party receives data they previously didn't know about prior to their Lucid Dream when the other talked about it. Or if 2 people happen to identify the same target they are attempting to hit in real life (this can affect a different form of Lucid Dream probability if they happen to guess it right in real life). This is ultimately why I believe that one of the experiments you should try to do if you are serious in trying (I used a book, but this works too) is to leave a card on the counter without peeking, and have you and your friend attempt a WILD and to meet at your house, then attempt to try to see what is on the card. The object is not to match the card in reality, but to attempt to have you both match the card in your Lucid Dreams. Your odds are 1 in 52.
If there is a chance even a small one that a phenomenon similar to dream sharing could occur, then what is the harm in coordinating an experiment?
its all worth doing and awesome to be wrong or right or whatever or use the exercise to get lucid and how bad would that be
Actually, dream sharing is, at least possible, in waking life. :mrgreen:
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Nesgirl, no it reinforces my point for me life is about change and out of my comfort zone not in a zone and uncomfortable.
That was not aimed at you either just me and my world
For someone who is a genophobe who ends up Dream Sharing with someone of the opposite gender who looks at their physical appearance, and ends up really attracted to it, does this answer your question?
If you don't feel comfortable participating in the experiment, you don't have to, but those who want too should and I'm sure you would be interested in the results.
Then why don't we get started?
I already shared my Skype Contact. I know of at least 1 other person who's interested and could get a few more on board, and perhaps you know some others too. It's hard to orchestrate on a forum. We just have to get the ball rolling.
Sure I'll pm you my skype and I'll ask my LD friend if he wants to participate. Should volunteers pm you since you already got started?
I got your PM and put out a contacted request to you an Skype, pending your reply. We will make a new 'Dream Share Conversation' on Skype and start fresh. (Most don't realize it, but it's Instant Messaging only, and no need to be shy). I made my Skype account public several times over the years on this forum, and have an ongoing LD Conversation Group that has been going for just over a year. Anyone can contact me.
If I don't know you, then I ignore, but otherwise if you're a friend of the forum here, you're a friend of mine!
My Skype account is public knowledge. And I've never had any problems getting inundated with contact requests. (I shared it earlier in this thread)
As soon as I get back to my computer, I'll accept the skype request and we can get started! :)
TheDude wrote: In this subject I am proposing a challenge: Create a method for dream sharing..
Ive had a couple of dream sharing experiences (neither planned but just spontaneous ones), one from being astrally projected (OBE) and from that state seeing in the astral the things the other dreamed where she dreamed them
eg I'd got astral and to my surprise there was wrapping paper and childrens presents which had been opened all over our lounge room. I'd NEVER seen anything while astral in my home which shouldn't have been there before (except entities), things all the previous APs had always been in their right places in my home and this gift paper mess and presents certainly weren't there in real life so I was left confused as I thought it was an AP/OBE and not a LD.
Trying to figure it out what my experience was and what was going on, I ended up asking daughter what she'd dreamed that night (not telling her what I saw, not telling I'd had an experience) and she said she'd dreamed she had a party and opened up presents in the lounge room (daughter was a child at time) .. I must of dropped into this after she'd finished dreaming it as she wasn't there any more, just the evidence of her dream left all there for me to see.
Probably better though to do this too at same time as other is dreaming as they may not leave any evidence from their dream eg if she'd simply had a cup of tea in her dream and then cleaned up, there would of been nothing at all for me to come across unusual to find just after. Of cause this could be set up not to be the case if the person first in the location was into LD so purposely did something in a room for another to try to see soon after. But who knows how long these dream impressions last on the astral, it could be a super short time so aim for same time experiences rather then catching someones dream after it.
If she had been there still, I guess this would of been another shared experience of the type where we both remembered each other during it and could communicate together (see shared dream experience below)
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The other experience sharing exactly the same dream at exactly the same moment. (we even woke up at the same time on that occassion) ... both those experiences of mine happened with the same person (my eldest daughter) while living in the same home as me.
So from my experience this is my recommendation
1/ More likely to occur if you are very close or connected to the other person
2/ You need to be asleep and both dreaming at the same time
(unless you are going to view the others dream in the astral if you can astrally project (rather then LD), in which you then can see things the others thoughts manifested there still at a time slightly after the others dream is over.. the images though wouldn't have the energy to last long once the other stops dreaming so you'd need to see them very soon after they've dreamed or during their dream).
Another way to dream share would be to astral project and look where the others physical body is asleep and watch the thought pictures coming from that persons head which are manifesting in their energy field (like some gifted psychics can see peoples thoughts). I know most of us, myself included though have not much chance of doing that but it is possible for some more gifted and I just wanted to make sure no area of possible dream sharing is missed in my post.
3/ Strong emotions can help with this. Rather then an every day like situation dream without much emotional impact, its easier I believe to share a nightmare dream (or any other intense emotional dream) with another as the impact of the dream is being stronger. With the shared dream I had with daughter at same time, she was having a nightmare and in her dream had called for me and at that point I came and started having the same dream as her (and helped rescue her in the dream).
Im fairly sure that if my daughter hadn't been having strong emotions, I wouldn't have been pulled into her dream, Her like will for me to be there reached out to me during her dream, before she called out to me in her dream we didnt have the dream connection together. I think her want to have me in her dream, may of pulled me out of a different dream I was having and into hers.
though my daughter as far as I know, Ive never talked to her about LD, I assume wasn't LD?.. so maybe a LD person calling out to another dreaming person in desperation during a dream, may make a dream share more likely seeing an emotional reach out during the dream helps (I wasn't LDing during the dream and thought it was an ordinary dream I had at time till I found out it was dream shared).
Nightmares also are possibly easier for people to remember
4/ The people involved in the dream sharing experience both need to be able to remember their dreams well and with details (or there will be no way to check it was a true dream share).
Though daughter and I hardly ever shared dreams together, maybe only a few times a year if that (it really wasn't a common practice for us) daughter and I were both great at remembering our dreams so we were easily able to find out in these two situations our experiences matched. If we'd normally shared dreams together, we probably would of discovered more shared dreams together, the only reason I found out we'd had the second shared dream was I'd got out of bed to go to the loo right after I woke up from it as soon as it ended, and having to walk past her bedroom to get there, I noticed she had her eyes open and was awake.
Being middle of night I asked her what was wrong and then found out that she too had just woken up moments before after a nightmare. Of cause I then asked her what the dream was seeing I just woke up from a nightmare kind of dream with her in it. Turned out to be exact match, not just with a location we both didn't know in real life but even to her 3 attackers and how she was hit by one of them over the head and of calling me and me coming to help and of me saving her from these others. (not the kind of thing which would only be coincidental, there was nothing vague about our memory).
5/ Keep dream journals. If daughter had a dream journal I would of been able to look back at her past dreams once I found out we'd done shared dreaming and compare them with others I'd had in past with her in them. (I really wish I could of done that).
TheDude wrote: . The challenge is now finding two individuals who share a deep enough connection and even tougher still are experienced lucid dreamers, who could potentially pull it off.
A planned dream share would only need one of the two people to be a lucid dreamer. No LD experience for one would be needed, all the other dreamer needs to be is someone who can remember their dreams well (with close connection eg close friends/brothers etc, making it more likely to succeed)
The lucid dreamer could try to focus on entering the others random dream (though it "may" (ive no idea) help a shared dream- planned locations, I myself wouldn't plan a meet up at a planned location as its easier to confirm a shared dream if nothing about that dream at all has been planned and the whole dream is random, other then both people knowing they want to meet in a dream to end up sharing it.
It would suck to maybe successfully do this but then not be sure if it was a true shared dream.
buildit wrote: My biggest issue with dream sharing is not the ability of two minds to share a matrix or construct, although that does in fact create very interesting issues. No my issue is the mean of transmission and reception of the "signals" if you will. Sort of like two people with ham radios but no idea if they work, how they work or if they can receive signals. Until we better understand if and how this sort of telepathy might occur everything else is test shots in a dark room at an invisible target. :?
nods. I do think telepathic ability probably helps with dream sharing. One thing which amazes me is that more people haven't had dream sharing experiences and I've been thinking about this and wondering why seeing I've had 2 (not many but enough to make me wonder why others don't do it more). I had got to wondering if its cause I have had some natural telepathic ability in the past (I've had a few weird experiences with this, far and few between though but certainly its happened to me).
Maybe that also helped me with at least one of my spontaneously shared dreams to have it (the other was aided by ability to AP/OBE and see on that level) and enter my daughters dream when she was calling to me while dreaming.
Could this be why we don't get much shared dreaming though there are lots of people who can do LD?
HAGART wrote: Unfortunately, we all live in different time zones and it's hard to organize a group sleep session, but there is a lot of overlap in our sleep times, so it's possible, especially with enough volunteers.
I don't think if my thought on the following is right but Im thinking it may cause confusion and may have less chance of working if people as a group are trying to dream share all together without like pairing people up (preferably with whoever they are closest too emotionally or relate too best).
You need people to be trying to enter others dreams but no one would know unless paired out who's dream to try to enter and if all the people are influencing all the others even in small ways it may get confusing. if both people are trying to create a dream, you would probably get two separate dreams, each with their own dream with their own view of the other in it, you need someone like reaching and and trying to merge and go into the others.
Better probably if say two people can try to share the same dream (one freely dreaming.. and if possible putting out the strong intent of wanting the other there with them) and the other (this person would need to be someone who can do LD well) .. trying to focus on the other person in their dream and of trying to go to entering into the others persons dream (rather then both trying to create like separate dreams) OR maybe try merging with the other persons mind during the dream for a different kind of dream share of experiencing a dream from 1st person of the other. (I wonder what thing is easier to do? There isn't enough info on dream sharing out there, near nothing at all I've ever read).
The people could alternative turns on different nights of trying to go into each others dream.
Maybe some will be better at triggering off the shared dream (eg entering into the others dream) then other people.
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Food for thought. I've not a clue if this would make any difference to shared dreaming and this probably sounds weird but some people seem to be more easy to for others to dream about then others (when I trying to do group LD challenges at another website, for some reason others started to spontaneously be dreaming about me and would say so, I was surprised how often I was showing up in their dreams (it wasn't shared dreaming as I wasn't dreaming about them).
What is weirder is their dreams were containing info about me eg I had been thinking about wishing to learn German that day, all my family on both sides come from there and I'd come across a relative online which only speaks German and I couldn't communicate with him and then that night someone in the group had a dream of me speaking German to them (none of them knew about my German connection etc). Did my desire in real life to be able to speak German, transfer spontaneously to them into their dream?
Three times straight in a matter of a couple of weeks I think it was, someone dreamed of me and from the dream something about me came out with no one there knew. Another had a dream of me doing a spell, I used to study Wicca with a Wiccian high priest and have done a spell in past so that was interesting when someone is dreaming of me doing a spell, of cause things like this could just be coincidental but then someone else describe me near exactly just from a dream, hair length, hair colour, hair style, body shape. (3 dreams and each contained something about myself. coincidence? I do not not what to make of all that as it still could of been all coincidental).
Maybe that could be a different experiment people may want to try sometime.. see if you can learn about others through your dreams of them in non dream sharing dreams. This kind of thing may be a good idea to keep in mind though while dream sharing when you compare dreams. did the dream tell you anything about the other you couldn't have known?
HAGART wrote: I got your PM and put out a contacted request to you an Skype, pending your reply. We will make a new 'Dream Share Conversation' on Skype and start fresh. (Most don't realize it, but it's Instant Messaging only, and no need to be shy). I made my Skype account public several times over the years on this forum, and have an ongoing LD Conversation Group that has been going for just over a year. Anyone can contact me.
If I don't know you, then I ignore, but otherwise if you're a friend of the forum here, you're a friend of mine!
My Skype account is public knowledge. And I've never had any problems getting inundated with contact requests. (I shared it earlier in this thread)
I may be on Skype in the future. Im about to get put onto the super speed computer connection going in in Australia in the next few days, so I'll be leaving my dial up computer connection which causes me not to use things like Skype and other things right now.
If things settle down here after that, I'd love to join in some LD experiments at some point.
I've tried something like this before. (Not exactly 'dream sharing', though.) I'd have OBEs and 'visit' friends of mine in order to see if I could learn information about them that I wasn't privy to ― usually with the idea in mind that it might be possible to spy on people as a discarnate being (or ghost, if you will) and observe what they are doing in the real world, miles away from where I really was (physically).
What I found was that I never travelled in the real world. Instead, it was all dream space filled with environments that could resemble objective reality. But it didn't matter; 'I could still reach my targets somehow, and make contact,' I thought to myself. I'd make observations in those lucid dreams and record my experiences upon awakening; then, I'd ring my friends and tell them about my experiences. What was odd was that, more often than not, they'd confirm my reports as accurate ― not about what they were doing in real life, but rather, what was or had been on their minds at the time (which sometimes partially coincided with activities they had engaged in at the time).
I cannot, however, be sure that something of a telepathic nature occurred; the notion that lucid dreaming enables one mind to access another is still hypothetical ― perhaps conscious brains can become quantum-entangled within the geomagnetic field! Maybe there is something about the Gamma (40 Hz) phase state of our noodles ― who knows! Or, the subjects of my experiment were merely swayed by confirmation bias as they made associations that could only be meaningful, conditionally, in human minds.
I am willing to 'visit' someone via lucid dreaming and record my experience here. Who is willing to be my guinea pig? I need your name, your picture, and your honesty... 8-)
...and your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle. :mrgreen:
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I don't have boots, I don't have a motorcycle, and an odd habit of mine is to reply to messages while naked.
I have nothing to lose!
I've tried this before too, and shared the same Wake Back to Bed time with others, and although it wasn't successful, and we didn't share a dream, it was fun to at least take a talent that only a rare people have, and test it out. I actually had a few great lucid dreams, I still remember and recorded, as a result due to the intent.
Don't knock it, 'till you try it!
After that, you can keep knocking so hard you smash it. Sometimes we need a Big Bad Wolf to blow our houses down that are merely made of straw. If someone has a brick house, bring it on!
(For the record though as a movie buff, your last line is from Terminator 2) :mrgreen:
Affirmative. 8-)
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