Spinning in Lucid Dreams

To increase your lucidity, Stephen LaBerge recommends you spin around to trigger a sensation of movement and stimulate the conscious brain. However, this seems to be met with mixed results.

So I want to know... What effect does spinning around have on your lucid dream? (Please pick the option that most frequently represents your experience, even if it doesn't happen EVERY time.)

For me it has done both...increased lucidity and changed the dream scene but not always within the same dream

Is there a way that all of these people posting random stuff can be stopped?

I get increased lucidity...

worldenterer wrote: Is there a way that all of these people posting random stuff can be stopped?

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Thanks ;)

isn`t this also away to trigger mutual dreams if u also think about the persons dream you want to go too ?

I've been doing this method of strengthening my lucid dreams for many years now... 15+ years, at least. I never heard about LaBerge back when I started doing this. It's just something I found through experimenting that worked to keep me within my dream.

this works but I suspect that its more that spinning creates an awareness and the spinning itself is not so important. I sometimes simply 'will" for the dream to become stable. I might think a statement like this is my dream and I want to stay here" or some such thought and it settles the dream

Peter

This was the first stabilization technique I ever tried and it failed miserably for me :( At least I now know to try something else :)

I guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It always causes me to wake up.

Tbh, I haven't really tried it so much because I'd rather not wake up, but I might give it another go. It has always caused me to go back to my physical body, but then I've only tried it when the dream was fading.

Below is an excerpt of my final paper this past December. It states my first remembered experience with spinning in my dreams. The thing is--every time I have spun in my dreams I am not lucid, but since that first night of spinning I instinctively do it for continued dreaming energy (I usually dance the way I do in the waking realm..very tai chi-esque so it works well for me, and my dancing to heal is also instinctual). I never really thought about that fact before today. I think it is because I consider my dream life as important and as "real" as this waking realm. I think the reason for my blurred lines came from stopping tryingto control my dreams. Once I had done that for a long while my nightmares seemed to give up even trying to haunt me heehee. So Although the dream below might seem terrifying to the average dreamer it was more movie like and matter-of-factly for me. (the details I couldn't add to a school paper would make for an excellent movie scene too boot),, Oh, and this neat book was compiled by Malcom Godwin : )

"Have you ever had a dream that you were flying or running and suddenly you ran out of steam? It used to happen to me quite a bit in my dreams. One night I was in a dream situation where an ancient Mongolian army had taken me hostage, and clearly planned on doing unspeakable things to me. I attempted to float up and fly away from the situation, but I had no steam. I was floating up so slowly that some of the men noticed and started towards me. I took a breath and extended my arms out and set myself to spinning. As soon as I began spinning I shot up into the air and out of harm’s way! A year later I was reading The Lucid Dreamer and saw a picture of dancing dervishes. The caption read: “The Sufis of both Persia and India used lucid dreaming extensively in their meditations. One of the most effective methods to maintain lucidity within a dream if it begins to fade is to start whirling.” (Godwin) telling you how excited I was in that moment would be a huge understatement. I had learned a skill on my own that was documented decades before my time. "

It causes me to either fly :? or wake up.

I use this if my dreamscene is getting boring, or I want something new. I spin really fast, and when i regain the ability to normally see i am in a new place. I do not close my eyes because whenever im lucid, even blinking, as soon as my eyes close in the dream they open in the real world.

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Any kind of willed conscious moving can increase lucidity. Maybe rubbing hands together would be a safer thing to do as its far less likely to make one wake up.

Spinning carries the risk of completely disconnecting a person from a dream (that is the very reason why it is used to change dream scenes!), not so good thou if one is struggling to stay in a dream in the first place and needing all the dream senses to help to stay in one. Its the opposite action to immersing yourself into a dream.

I sometimes try spinning, and it keeps me in the dream longer, but if I was focusing on something, it becomes harder to investigate it, as the details get shrouded. :|

First time I tried it in order to stabilize and stop myself from waking up, it worked for just a few seconds... then I woke up anyway. Other times it just caused me to wake up, since my lucid dreams are quite fragile. I think it might be better to rub your hands (another technique to stabilize your dream). Haven't tried it yet though.

I'm reading one of Stevens books now actually and read about this technique but when I tried in the dream that night after things started to "go away" I actually woke up in a sleep paralysis state where I jumped out of my body with a second. I wasn't sure whether I was dreaming about this part or whether I was actually experiencing SP. But he was right in the part of concentrating on something in the dream as I can now have long lasting dreams where i drop in and out of scenes but never wake up or lose lucidity

I've found that waving my hands around while flying helps me stay in the dream. I don't know if you need to be flying first, though.

Also, while flying, I've found sometimes that if I touch down, I feel the bed underneath me and start to wake up. So some of my early lucid dreams were spent desperately trying to stay aloft to avoid touching the ground.

I love spinning in the during lucid dreams, feels like free falling spinning, no gravity. Feels good. :D

It usually creates a new scene for me.

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Once, I was about to wake up and tried it. It caused me to wake up earlier and I fell in sleep paralysis. Once again, there's nothing scary in it as long as you won't 'fight'. Not sure what it will cause next time. Not participating in the poll yet.

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Spinning is a terrible thing to do in a lucid dream.

First rule of dream control is: Everything requires your attention to exist. If you're spinning so much that you can't focus on your surroundings, they literally cease to exist and you wake up.

Yet spinning still does have stabilizing effects on the dream. This is from the sense of momentum generated by the spin. Momentum is the key to stabilizing dreams, and there are plenty of other methods of generating momentum which aren't so disorienting (running, jumping, flying).

As long as you don't spin yourself stupid, it's not so bad. The proper way to use spinning in a dream without running the risk of waking would be to use very short spins. Basically a really fast trun.

Dont agree, sometimes I spin so hard that I break up into lots of little parts and still remain lucid and fully embedded in the dream but in a different state

You put your opinion up as fact and that is not correct except in your experience

Peter wrote: Dont agree, sometimes I spin so hard that I break up into lots of little parts and still remain lucid and fully embedded in the dream but in a different state

You put your opinion up as fact and that is not correct except in your experience

So first you warn me not to be egotistical, and now you're going to start poking me?

You are mistaken the assuming I have based this off only my personal experience. Fact it, spinning isn't the wonder technique everyone says it is. A large % of the people who use it do wake up, and yet others still successfully use it to stabilize or to switch scenes. I offered an explanation on how it can do both of those things.

Just because YOU can use it fine does not mean everyone else will be able to.

Yip that exactly what I did and still stick to that. We welcome all opinions and experiences but stop short of posts that say something is fact as its all subjective and personal experience.

spinning works for its intended purpose and is a tool along the way, yes at times it wont work but it also depends on why you are spinning in the first place

And it that's a poke then yes it is.