My dream environments are always devoid of people

I have a problem with my lucid dreams, I am desperate to seek knowledge and ask questions but I very rarely encounter any dream characters. I usually become lucid and then demand clarity, which tends to "lock in" the dream environment, making it more tangible. However, as soon as I do this any dreams characters dissappear, leaving me in a very solid physical environment but one that is eerily peaceful. I have experimented with with environments in various ways and done some pretty cool stuff but can hardly ever find people to interract with. On the rare occasions I do encounter dream characters I have a very brief conversation but then, as soon as I ask a question, the dream fades and I wake up before I can get an answer. If I encounter people I know in dreams the dream tends to feel less vivid and I don't feel quite as lucid as I do in the quiter dreams. It's very frustrating, especially as my girlfiend is an absolute astral wizzkid and she meets dream characters and spirit guides every time she has a dream or an OBE. but she's a natural and can't answer my questions. Any thoughts?

Have you ever considered summoning a DC? It's entirely possible, although it can be quite tricky to pull off. There are relevant articles on this site with more information.

No, I've never tried that. I've searched for dream characters and , on occasions, found one but then, whenever I ask a question like "tell me something I need to know." They dreams starts to fade just as they're about to speak. It's damn frustrating. I'm New here so where do I find these articles?

Thanks

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You need to apply techniques to maintain the lucid dream. For example, I usually rub my hands when I talk to a dream character. The background sensation helps me to remain there plus a desire to get information. Focus on the conversation instead of the fear of waking up. If the dream still fades, try to retrieve it by amplifying all the senses.

You can even hold on to a dream character's hair and insist on feeling the tactile sensation. If you perceive that you are lying in bed but still holding hair, pull it and get out of bed and walk around in your dream bedroom. summon another person if you have too. Insist on remaining in the dream world until your time there really expires.

Good luck!

Thanks, that's some.interesting ideas. I've tried spinning before when a dream fades but that just creates a new dream environment. I've not heard od rubbing ones hands in a dream though, so will definitely try that if I get the chance. Thanks

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http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/how-to-create-dream-characters.html

Try this^

Also, as summerlander said, it's important to engage your senses to keep you firmly rooted in the dream.

Thanks for posting that, really interesting. I'll definitely try some of those techniques next time I'm lucid.

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I had a Lucid Dream recently. I was in a building that seemed familiar, it was a series of rooms or sheds where animals were kept but all the animals were out in the fields. As I wandered from one area to the next, the pig pen to the chicken coup and so on I found myself thinking it was a dream environment and I was constantly touching the walls to feel the surface and see if I could sink my hand into it. Eventually I became lucid and found myself at a doorway. The door started to change to a portal as I became more aware. At this point the dream started to fade, like before when anything significant happens in my LDs, so I rubbed my hands together as advised previously and felt the friction build but still the dream was fading, almost pixelating, so I demanded clarity a couple of times at the top of my voice. This seemed to steady the dream a little and I stepped into the portal. Once inside I felt myself being pulled through a tunnel of sorts and I was now just pure consciousness, I had no physical body. Eventually I found myself just floating in this vast expanse of emptiness but in my hand was an electronic device with a CGI face on the screen which looked like some kind of computer character. I got a sense that this device was my "Higher Self" and that I needed to ask it some really important questions but when I tried typing the question in the keypad the characters on the keys kept changing and I was unable to ask my question. This is where the dream faded for good and I either woke up or drifted into a deeper sleep. Still I am unable to interact properly with Dream Characters or get answers to my questions, it's so frustrating.

Hi, well I have some very good advice. Dcs are often not wise, and they are defienatly not the best choice for wise advice. Also on a quick note, the lucid dream where you lost your body was powerful and sounds like a good one. That is the goal of bhuddist lucid dreamers, to just be pure contiousness with no body or dream around them. So that's cool that you experienced that :)

Also, instead of typing in the phone device thing, you shod of asked it out loud directly. (You need no devices or keyboards in dreams haha!)

And on the third and most important note, as I said earlier DCs are often not the best choice for advice. You know what is? The awareness behind the dream. What's even better, is this is perfect for your situation. You don't need DCs! Just ask the dream itself directly anything you want. Anything ;) you can ask it these questions you've been wanting to ask DCs and your higher self, but you can also make requests such as "show me something amazing!" Or "I want to see a dragon!" Or any question like "what is my dream job?" "Why am I stressed at work?" The possibilities are limitless on what you can ask and the awareness behind the dream knows far more then any DC.

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That's an awesome reply thank you so much. I've had a couple of dreams where I'vs "lost" my body but they never last long after that, it's almost as though the dream just takes over and I have no idea why I had this electronic device in my hand. I've tried asking the dream for things before like to take me somewhere or show me something but it never works, do I need to be specific in what I ask for? Cheers.

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I have found you can pretty much ask for or about anything, but sometimes it just doesn't work, but then you should just repeat your question louder! Keep repeating it, and with a strong will and belief, the awareness behind the dream will respond to anything.

But also sometimes, that question is just not meant to be answered or that request delivered at that time. Sometimes the awareness even responds explaining why it wouldn't be a good idea to give you your request.

But generally, ask it anything. If it doesn't work, repeat your question louder with more intent. Truly focus on the awareness behind the dream and ask. Now personally, I think you should try with "show me something amazing!" ;)

And remember, it is also important not to expect what will you get or hear, just be completely open to the awareness, and expect an answer in general. Surrender to it even, make it important.

Good luck :)

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Thanks again, these are by far the most helpful responses I've read. I usually ask something like "show me something I need to see." Or "take me somewhere I need to go." But it never seems to work, even if I repeat multiple times. I did once say "take me to space." And I took off and flew up through the clouds, through the stratosphere and up into space until I arrived at the airlock of a spacecraft. The craft was empty and I simply floated around the corridors until I found myself in the quarters of a young black lady who told me her bane was Kim but the dream ended before I was able to get any information out of her. So, after what you have told me I'm convinsed now that I need to ask for something more specific. Thanks again.

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boardsenseless wrote: Thanks again, these are by far the most helpful responses I've read. I usually ask something like "show me something I need to see." Or "take me somewhere I need to go." But it never seems to work, even if I repeat multiple times. I did once say "take me to space." And I took off and flew up through the clouds, through the stratosphere and up into space until I arrived at the airlock of a spacecraft. The craft was empty and I simply floated around the corridors until I found myself in the quarters of a young black lady who told me her bane was Kim but the dream ended before I was able to get any information out of her. So, after what you have told me I'm convinsed now that I need to ask for something more specific. Thanks again.

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I see some issue with the way you are wording things and doing the asking. By saying "Take me somewhere I need to go"... who are you asking this too? Have you thought of how you are getting there? Maybe if you thought instead I AM heading to somewhere I need to go and start heading in a direction..actually acting with intent.. it is more of a doing then a waiting for a response thing so may work better.

its a stupid example but one could compare it with real life and think of yourself standing in the street.. saying "take me to where I need to go".. instead of actually acting with intent and heading towards a bus. (yeah what you said may work for some but for many it wont and more intent has to be put into things).

"show me something I want to see".. try instead, to when turning a corner of a building (or doing something in which a new view will come in for you) think .. "there is something I really really want to see around this corner.. something special" .

What Im trying to say is instead of requesting something to happen..actualy think of it happening now instead (to bring it into the present..). Base your actions too on making that thing happen and you should have more success in what you are trying to do.

its like if someone wanted something to appear in their dream.. standing there saying "I want a bicycle." may not get one appearing in front of oneself.. but then if one tries to actually seek it out and think "there is a bicycle here" and turn around and actually look for it (active seeking rather then just asking for one) .. one will have far better luck of getting that bicycle you seek.

That's really interesting. I had been ambiguous in my requests because I had been wanting the dream to show me things or people that might be significant to me but that might be new to me in some way, like delving into my subconscious rather than my conscious... If that makes sense? So, rather than saying "take me to Austria" or "show me my mum" hoping for it to show me something I am not aware of or some place I have never been, etc. Anyway, thanks again I will definitely try this next time I'm lucid, whenever that might be. Cheers.

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I still remember a particular lucid dream I had. At first, in the absence of lucidity, I'd been socialising with family and friends in a vivid dream environment.

Then, the absurdity of something made me question my reality and I became lucid. There was a bed in the bathroom and the environment was a pub-abode hybrid. Lucidity had apparently made the dream people vanish too.

I took that opportunity to create a character out of thin air. I raised my normal-looking hands and pretended to hold a human head. I began to imagine a woman emerging, like a tulpa, and, gradually, haptic data simultaneously crept in my mind as a ghostly shape of a head gained density and became more opaque.

It was the bust of a woman but she still looked like a smiling mannequin so I literally breathed life into her. I also played with making her young and old and then made another character appear in a split second. I was happy with the level of control in my lucid dream...

If people are missing and you wish to see them, find them or create them.

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Fascinating. I always find people disappear when I become lucid too. Thanks for sharing that, really interesting.

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boardsenseless wrote: That's really interesting. I had been ambiguous in my requests because I had been wanting the dream to show me things or people that might be significant to me but that might be new to me in some way, like delving into my subconscious rather than my conscious

You can still be ambiguous in what I was trying to say. Im not completely sure you understood what I was trying to say. You can expect "something" and go out looking for "something" (your mind doesnt have to be thinking of a specific thing).. without having any idea what that something is.

Rather then like just standing there asking "show me something", which from your post seems to be along the lines of what you are doing now. Give more a chance for your surprises to manifest by stronger thinking in a more present tense (rather then thinking of something coming to you, think of that something being in your dreamscape for you to find RIGHT NOW eg whatever you see is there right now, right behind you or just around the corner) and giving it more of a chance to manifest right away.

The difference of the thought patterns are that one is like "wishing" for something.. show me (so more of a future tense) and the other is knowing its there now and hence it should NOW be when you look. Its more powerful in dreams to think of something being there right now if you look. (give it thou several seconds for you to see it thou so dont be surprised if you have to actually look about a bit.. I find it often takes my thoughts several seconds to manifest into my dreams).

Oh I see, I need more intention in my thoughts. That's really interesting. Have you ever tried meditating in a Lucid Dream? I've heard it can be very powerful, my ex girlfriend claimed she healed an old back injury that way. I really want to out your advice to practice now but I only tend to have Lucid Dreams randomly about once every couple of months or so. Thanks for everything you've shared with me.

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boardsenseless wrote: Oh I see, I need more intention in my thoughts. That's really interesting. Have you ever tried meditating in a Lucid Dream? I've heard it can be very powerful, my ex girlfriend claimed she healed an old back injury that way. I really want to out your advice to practice now but I only tend to have Lucid Dreams randomly about once every couple of months or so. Thanks for everything you've shared with me.

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Well first, I wanna say, we don't even need to mediate in lucid dreams to heal ourselves. I have read alot on lucid dream healing, it is very possible! So I'm sure your ex did heal herself, but mediating in a lucid dream is just one way to heal yourself, and it's completely possible!

Now on mediating In lucid dreams, I have not tried it personally. However I read an account from the author Robert Waggoner who wrote Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self, and in his account he meditated in a lucid dream, and when did this the whole dream scene itself vanished. He became pure awareness in a space of nothing, and then appeared in his front yard in the lotus style meditation position (still in a lucid dream), which sounds very interesting.

It leads me to believe that mediating in lucid dream is an exellent idea that I have to try soon! :)

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Sweet. Let me know how you get on then I'd be really interested to hear about it. I wish I could have Lucid Dreams more frequently and try some of these things out but I don't seem to have much control over when they occur and, more often than not, they usually start when I have a dream about funnel clouds or tornadoes. Although I have induced them a couple of times through WILD or similar methods but my success rate isn't great. Is there a method that works best for you? Or, is it possible to set the intention to get better at having more Lucid Dreams while in a Lucid Dream?

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boardsenseless wrote: Oh I see, I need more intention in my thoughts. That's really interesting. Have you ever tried meditating in a Lucid Dream? I've heard it can be very powerful, my ex girlfriend claimed she healed an old back injury that way. I really want to out your advice to practice now but I only tend to have Lucid Dreams randomly about once every couple of months or so. Thanks for everything you've shared with me.

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Ive never tried to meditate in a dream, but yeah that is something I do want to do at some point as Ive had some amazing meditation experiences in real life.. which maybe could be easily repeated in a dream.

Hi

I had another LD a couple of nights ago. I had woken up around 5am needing the lavatory, when I returned to bed I decided to try WILD, so I plugged myself into an Isobeat and settled into my affirmation routine. When I fell asleep I found myself standing outside the door of a large stately home. I got the impression that it belonged to an aristocratic Canadian family (I have no idea why Canadian and I very much felt that the house looked more German in style). Although I was aware that I was dreaming I didn't really feel fully lucid and was still, slightly aware of my physical body. I opened the door and felt as though something was watching me from behind the door, but I had a strong sense that I had to go into the house, that there was something very significant about it. Once in the house I became even more aware of my physical body outside of the dream. I came to a large room and felt myself floating, like it was a zero gravity chamber. At this point I found myself back in my bedroom but was half out of body, my legs felt as though they were floating up to the ceiling and I was almost completely inverted. I could also feel my arms floating above my head, even though I was also fully aware of my physical arms, resting by my side in bed. I concentrated on relaxing and just enjoying this surreal experience and then suddenly found myself back in the dream, floating inside the large room. This happened a couple of times, switching between the dream and my physical/astral body. The whole time I was fully aware of my physical eyes and trying not to open them so as not to "wake" myself up. When I eventually snapped out of it and the dream dissolved I just laid in bed feeling really chilled out, slightly frustrated that neither the Lucid Dream or the Astral Projection really came to anything, but satisfied that I had finally had an Astral experience after such a long time of trying. I can't explain this but it's not the first time I've had this kind of experience, I just wish I could harness it to better effect.

boardsenseless wrote: Once in the house I became even more aware of my physical body outside of the dream. I came to a large room and felt myself floating, like it was a zero gravity chamber. At this point I found myself back in my bedroom but was half out of body, my legs felt as though they were floating up to the ceiling and I was almost completely inverted. I could also feel my arms floating above my head, even though I was also fully aware of my physical arms, resting by my side in bed. I concentrated on relaxing

Congrats on that astral body experience even if you didnt manage to get out of the body (its so common to be "stuck".. arms and legs seem to free much easier then the torso area!! That's a very common OBE experience).

Next time you are like that.. you could try doing an astral summersault as that should either flip you into the astral (probably your room) or may take you into a dream (seeing you were in between states).

Another way Ive gone astrally out, is pick one of the astral bits of you which are out and try to slide out of your body taking that part further and further away from you. eg focus on where your astral feet are and try to stretch them further and further away from your body. That can end up making you either slide or you will "pop" out. Or imagine a rope astrally just where your astral hands were..and use that rope as an aid to help pull you astrally out... climb the rope (that's one of Robert Bruce's techniques).

If you just wait to get out while already hanging out of your body.. that is how you are more likely to end up in a LD rather then an astral experience as after a while your waking consciousness will start to relax and your subconsciousness and dreaming will take over.

You may have to put some effort in to free your astral body up rather then relax and end up in a LD, the fact you were half hanging out of your body, shows your astral body was plenty relaxed already. (so in this case i do think you had a choice which you could be in.. relax and start to allow your mind to drift would take you into a LD.. or focus and concentrate hard on your astral body you could feel and try to move it away from the physical body more.. reach out by focusing on reaching things further away from your physical one.

I do wonder what the result would of been had you opened your eyes.. you "may" of opened your astral eyes seeing you were certainly connected to your astral body at the time. Could you astrally see? or were your astral eyes shut? Best not to thou open your eyes if you are feeling your physical body still as well.

boardsenseless wrote: I have a problem with my lucid dreams, I am desperate to seek knowledge and ask questions but I very rarely encounter any dream characters. I usually become lucid and then demand clarity, which tends to "lock in" the dream environment, making it more tangible. However, as soon as I do this any dreams characters dissappear, leaving me in a very solid physical environment but one that is eerily peaceful. I have experimented with with environments in various ways and done some pretty cool stuff but can hardly ever find people to interract with. Any thoughts?

I just had a thought thou its probably not right but it came to me when reading your latest experience where you were going from dreams to astral state and back and forth.

When I have OBES I dont tend to come across others (only on rare occassions depending on where Ive gone to and if others are present in that astral place at the time eg I OBE to astral pulse island one time and in that place there was others but many other places there is no one). So I wondered if you could be when your waking consciousness comes in.. in more like an astral plane and hence all the things your subconciousness was creating may vanish when you wake up (become aware) to that.. maybe the environment you were in was a real astral place??? with just the people your own mind creations?

Probably a crazy idea but your last experience and my own experience of the astral plane being a much quieter place then my dreams made me just think of that. Many places in the astral plane I find "eeriely peaceful" (so that too made me wonder if you've changed states at that point). I suggest to try to check this idea out.

Try to astral travel back to your house and do an OBE reality check there eg check out the cars on your street (try not to start dreaming and dont project out thoughts of what you "think" you will see) or look at something else you could later check out physically and then wake yourself up and see if you saw right. You could leave a card in real life upright not looking at it, on a cupboard top to check out for when you experience something like this to work out if you are dreaming or becoming aware of the astral.

Thanks for the advice. I have had this kind of experience quite a lot this year, more so than having Lucid Dreams. I have become fully OBE on, I believe, three occasions, the first two happened completely randomly and I was able to float around the room before sinking myself through the floor to travel through a portal. I had another experience recently where I saw my "third eye" open up before me and I travelled through a portal where I saw a bar with a man sitting waiting to speak to me but also on that occasion I was still aware of my physical eyes which resulted in me waking up. I have had several experiences where my astral body has got stuck and always I end up waking and ending the experience. I often find myself either snoring loudly or choking during these experiences. My ex girlfriend witnessed one such episode when I had a sleep paralysis and had a semi OBE where I was trying to attract her attention only to feel my astral body fall out of bed and lay, naked on the cold floor. At that point I woke up in bed next to her. She thought it very cool because she often has massive OBEs herself and has been in regular close contact with her "higher self" for some time. But back to me. I've been getting very frustrated with my experiences lately and would love to be able to control these episodes more skillfully. I have heard of the rope technique and will try one of these techniques next time it happens. Thanks again.

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Last week I had 3, yes 3, LDs! That's an all-time record me. I had lots and lots of short vivid dreams and several semi lucid dreams and I definitely became lucid on three occasions, albeit for only a short period of time each time. I didn't really get an opportunity to try any of the experiments but I did learn two very important things. On a couple of occasions my reality checks didn't work, I was semi lucid and kind of aware that I was dreaming, hence why I was doing reality checks, but the checks failed multiple times. It's obvious that all the reality checks I've been doing in RT have been half hearted or, at least, lacking in focus or attention. I need to concentrate more consciously in waking life on my reality checks otherwise they will fail in dreams. Secondly in all three lucid dreams I flew, in one immediately after becoming lucid I instantly decided to fly to the moon and simply took off like a rocket. Unfortunately once I encountered a presence/person/DC/consciousness on the moon I woke up before they were able to tell me something really interesting (this always happens to me). However, I have now realised that every time I interact with DCs I'm almost always in space, so that's where I need to go in future. But I learnt new flying skills in my next LD. Having flown to the moon in my previous LD the next time I became lucid I decided to fly to a set target (in this case it was a tornado on the horizon) I flew with ease but found myself trying to steer with my arms which was awkward and clumsy. Once at my destination, which was some kind of department store, I was flying around trying to catch some kind of life-force which was also flying. I suddenly decided tom place my hands by my sides and was instantly able to control my flight completely intuitively. I now realise that using my "physical" body or limbs to control flight while in the astral state is ridiculous as my physical body is only a figment of my imagination. When we are in astral state or a dream environment we are pure consciousness, energy and so distracting ourselves by attempting to use arms is pointless. By placing my arms at my sides I was able to just go where ever my "eyes" or rather awareness looked. Fascinating! I'll try the suggestion about travelling back to my home the next time I'm lucid if i think of it. Regards

This morning I woke early, so read some of Rebecca's blogs and then settled down, with an isochronic tone, to induce a Lucid Dream. The tone finished and I had been drifting in and out of Hypnogogia but no dream so I unplugged the headphones and rolled over to sleep, where I almost instantly went into paralysis. I started to feel my lower body lifting out again but, as before, was very aware of my physical eyes so I kept telling myself I have no eyes and then I felt my physical arms so, again, told myself I have no arms. I also concentrated on trying to relax and dissolve any expectations. Pretty soon I was fully OBE and floating around my room. I drifted behind the wardrobe and started to go through the wall, I had hoped this would take me into an Astral portal or some other Astral plain. Instead I found myself back on my bed and there was a chubby girl sitting on the bed. It felt like she was my girlfriend, or significant other. I thought about changing her into my ex girlfriend (long story) but decided against that and, instead, began to physically seduce her but I didn't feel fully lucid at this point and then I "woke up" and went upstairs where my flat mate and his girlfriend were having breakfast on the balcony (crisps and cake for some reason). I spoke to them and then decided to make a raw chocolate smoothie (a favourite of mine) but I was unable to find my hand blender in the cupboard. I then woke up for real.

I sometimes feel these semi lucid experiences are a waste of time and that I would get more out of it if I had more control over them but, at least, I am having these experiences far more frequently now which is positive. I just want to be able to explore more, learn more and see more. I really want to communicate with "spirit guides" my "higher self" and to visit the Akashic Records. I know that dreams and astral travel are the keys to knowledge of self and knowledge of the universe and that is my goal. :)

Yeah it seems you are slowly progressing with it. Keep working on it and you will get there. Appears you are getting now more DCs into your dreams too.

I highly suggest always doing a reality check whenever you think you've woken up.

Thanks, I have been trying to remember to that that. I am also doing several reality checks throughout the day. I am a fitness instructor so it's difficult to do them during classes but I am managing between 4 and 10 a day, most days.

Thanks for your support.

A couple of nights ago I had a really long lucid dream, it was massive and I remember thinking that it felt really long. Unfortunately I don't recall the dream, just the fact that I had it. In fact it was only later that day that I had a slight flashback reminding me that it happened. I'm dissapointed because I am certain I achieved some long term goals in this one. Anyway, this morning I had a short LD and something weird happened. I found myself in a room with a door but the door woukdn't move and it was very dark beyond the door. I got a sense that I wasn't supposed to enter but my curiosity got the better of me. I eventually managed to go through the door (literally right through it) and in the room was a coffin. I ooened the coffin and there was a corpse which looked kind of A sexual, with a shaved cropped hair style and a suit and tie. The face had make up on, it took me a while to work out if it was male or female, I decided it was female. What happened next was weird. I got a sense that I should kiss the corpse. There wasn't anything erotic about it I just kissed her on the lips and wondered if she would come alive and then I woke up. Odd!

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