Have you ever killed a Dream Character and if so How?

Although I like to be intellectual with dream characters and I am becoming more and more respectful, I must admit sometimes I kill them or just toy with them like a juvenile. Although I can get great insight from lucid dreams with a rational 'adult' brain, sometimes I just become a kid again and toy with that reality as if I have a god-complex. And the dream characters suffer the consequences.

Sometimes it is as simple as holding your finger and thumb up to your 'eye' and then squeezing which snuffs them out of existence. Or telekinetically lifting them off the ground a foot or so from a distance just to see their reaction and toy with them. Or I have even lifted them higher and let them fall to their 'death'. Or to another extreme, one time I was in a classroom and became lucid and willed the teacher to vanish. He didn't vanish right away but grabbed on to my forearms in desperation and I felt like he truly didn't want to die, but I made him disappear anyway and he turned into a cloud of blue and black. And as he disappeared I felt a strong remorse.

I've been a bad boy sometimes in lucid dreams, but I feel like I can't be the only one. And this sort of stuff stems from a feeling of frustration or anger which, being human, we feel sometimes and lucid dreams absorb emotions like a sponge and project it in ways we can sense. Not all lucid dreams are spiritually, or intellectually enlightening.

YET, understanding why WE (hopefully not just I) do this sometimes shines a light on ourselves and isn't that the definition of enlightening?

(But any gruesome anecdotes are welcome too! :twisted: ) ( I have some....)

Whenever we get rid of a dream character by whatever means, it is because we don't want them there. But you must ask yourself why? And then you learn more about yourself.

I do from time to time and it does not bother me as it is rare and the driving thought is just a simple "needs to be done" so I get rid of the offender. I think it should be taken in the context that when we change scenes we destroy entire worlds so again its all in the perception of the dreamer. Destroy the DC or destroy the world they live in - and the interesting point here is the ones that keep on keeping on and live in all realms.

Yes, usually with weapons. In real life I've usually killed with guns, traps or my bare hands, but in dreams I normally kill with white arms (swords and knives), very rarely I use magic. My most recent kills were of turtles whose heads I was snipping off. I did not know what I was snipping and was shocking when I saw they were live turtles-pretty gross to be killing without even knowing it and for no reason.

Not yet but I will in my next lucid dream! :twisted:

WHY? :shock:

erichsa wrote: WHY? :shock:

Exactly my question, why in the world would you want to "kill" off , not just your dream characters, but anything? Hope you will not take these things into the real world.

But to answer your question, no I have never felt the desire to kill. Although I have had the need to interact and get insight into some of these characters, pick there brain, so to speak.

What I keep seeing or reading is waking life values by way of expressions being used or transferred to the dream world. The concept of killing is one as I dont think there is a need to think in terms of killing. I know that gamer will do this but most likely with the same feelings of killing in a game so the emotional content is missing as it is most likely just like a game to them.

If we are literal about the word killing then as I said in another post each time we refocus we kill everything that was there, each time we create a new dream scene we kill what was there and each time we put focus into a new DC the old ones are gone or killed as they no longer exist due to our actions.

Choosing to kill is an interesting issue, self defense - in some countries that is legal. Hunting well that is legal as well, killing for pleasure in the dream may not be so good but are the feelings associated real in anyway, do they carry over to waking life?

I am weary that we will become to judgmental in a thread like this as we each have different goals in dreaming

I had a lucid dream where I battled the leader of a group of guys that was trying to kidnap my sister and cousin. At the end of the fight I sent his own dog to attack and kill him. I remember the dog jumping on him and biting his face off :shock:

Wow.. im shocked at how violent some feel.

I though once attacked and was killing a dream character of my mother. In RL I guess I was rather frustrated with her. The attack of her character in my dream was horrifically violent with me bashing my mothers head into a brick wall over and over and her head was being smashed up with blood going everywhere. When I woke up, I was so shocked I had that dream of doing that too her, the memory of that dream made me feel quite nausous..

The only way ive "destroyed" a DC thou is once when I had a demon character with glowing red eyes in a boat with me. It was in a lucid dream and I could feel such malice coming off the demon character so I destroyed that character by willing the demon into an innocent harmless young boy who could do nothing to anyone and got enjoyment from disabling the demon DC like that.

jeremy1113 wrote: Exactly my question, why in the world would you want to "kill" off , not just your dream characters, but anything? Hope you will not take these things into the real world.

But to answer your question, no I have never felt the desire to kill. Although I have had the need to interact and get insight into some of these characters, pick there brain, so to speak.

There are numerous reasons to kill. The first two are the normal reasons to kill-power and freedom. If you can't kill you're the slave of anyone who wants to enslave you. Your freedom is not deserved, it's just an accident of circumstance, while if you want to enslave others being willing to kill them is a mandatory vice.

Survival, profit, courage, bravery, self mastery and art are also common motives for needing the ability to kill. If you ever are unfortunate enough to face people who are trying to kill you if you can't kill them first your chances of survival are pretty low. Killing for profit whether of humans or animals has always been a common custom. The profit motive should be extremely obvious, but sadly is not. BTW are you a vegetarian? if not you're still responsible for the killing you commission while being a grocery store scavenger. Courage is much harder for most being to understand. Whatever you're afraid of weakens and enslaves you. Facing fear and overcoming it is a very rewarding experience. Bravery is also hard to understand for most people. What you can't do in a conflict will defeat you. One needs to be able to use force, but beating up a foe is often not enough to stop them, nor is inflicting pain, nor crippling them enough to stop an enemy with certainty, killing them is 100% effective at stopping them. To be effective in a conflict one can't be afraid of suffering: a beating; of any level of pain or torture that is inflicted upon one; of any mutilation or death and needs to be willing to inflict them on others. The mere threat of them is often enough to defeat a foe. If one knows what a foe fears or can't do one has already defeated them and may not have to fight them at all. Self mastery is also akin to courage and bravery, being in complete control of oneself in dangerous situation is character building. hardest of all to understand is that killing is an art and like all talents one wants to increase ones knowledge, skill and experience.

taniaaust1 wrote: Wow.. im shocked at how violent some feel... The only way ive "destroyed" a DC thou is once when I had a demon character with glowing red eyes in a boat with me. It was in a lucid dream and I could feel such malice coming off the demon character so I destroyed that character by willing the demon into an innocent harmless young boy who could do nothing to anyone and got enjoyment from disabling the demon DC like that.

You show promise, but don't you think that forcing that demon into an innocent was wrong?

I've read the posts and this is interesting. I think there are 3 main reasons to kill a Dream Character.

1. They are menacing and it is in self defense. We all have the capability to kill and dreams can sometimes be a virtual learning environment to act out those scenarios. We are still animals after all, and if you have ever daydreamed about what you would do if an intruder came in your house then you are going to dream about something like that too. I think we all have. It usually happens when I am non lucid however since when I become lucid I realize it is not real and just leave or do away with it.

2. Then there is the simple fact that we don't want somebody in our lucid dream and we cast them out somehow. I mentioned I sometimes 'pinch' them out of existence, or other times, this just came instinctively to me, I use my mind to throw them against a wall very hard and they explode into a cloud of dust and disappear. No matter what your method is, it is not 'killing', but rather 'expunging' them.

3. Killing for the fun of it. And don't judge! Whenever I do this, the Dream Characters are mindless extras without a personality. Like Peter said, it feels more like a video game, and there is no emotion in the dream characters and in fact, although they look human, they really aren't a dream character as I would define since there is no character or personality in them at all. They don't feel any suffering. (Except that teacher guy I mentioned in the first post, and I felt bad about it. I didn't expect to feel his anguish. It was an accident and I was only trying to expunge him. BUT IT'S STILL JUST A DREAM so get over it!)

(If someone kills to get pleasure from seeing others suffer, that is a whole different story!)

I said I had a gruesome anecdote and this is actually a 4th reason to kill a dream character. REVENGE! This has happened several times and it happens when I have a DILD and become lucid in the dream and when there is someone bugging me or bullying me. My first thought and course of action is to exact some revenge. (I know it's petty and unintellectual, but when emotions are high I act on impulse. I am only human after all. Not all lucid dreams are spiritually enlightening.) This dream happened about a year ago:

• I was in a room in a regular dream when two guys cornered me and were being hostile. I didn't know why and it was hard to fight back. I suddenly realized it was a dream, but I still couldn't fight them. It was like I couldn't move my arms or if I tried, the dream didn't give me any. And none of my lucid powers seemed to work on them either. I just gave up and let it happen knowing I wasn't really going to get hurt. But when it faded and I woke up, I was still in the same dream and now outside, but just knew that they were around somewhere. I saw one of the guys and I pointed at him and willed his head to explode and even used my arms to gesture what I was trying to do. Sure enough his head exploded and sprayed a mist of blood. I was going to find the other guy, but I woke up. I was actually upset that it ended because man! I was pissed at those guys!*

Snaggle wrote: You show promise, but don't you think that forcing that demon into an innocent was wrong?

no not at all.. my intent wasnt to hurt anything. I wasnt creating any negative energy for myself by transmuting something rather then attacking it.

Maybe when we are attacking DCs maybe its symbolic of wanting to attack a part of ourselves (anger towards ourselves).. rather then wanting to change a part of ourselves. I felt threatened by that DC thou I knew I was in a dream and he wasnt really real..so hence I responded to change the situation.

I dont actually even play violent computer games.. I dislike killing even in those so hence even if I know I DC isnt real.. I still wont kill it thou maybe a part of me did get like sadist pleasure from makin it change.

If I am sick and attempt to look around my body for something to fix in a lucid dream it may manifest as a DC or group of DC's and I have no hesitation in killing them and I will use fire like a wizard as temperature is the way the body gets rid of lots of disease.

Being sick really interferes with dreams sometimes, it's probably the fever that messes up the normal process. I get these totally confused and erractic dreams when I'm really sick.

taniaaust1 wrote: Maybe when we are attacking DCs maybe its symbolic of wanting to attack a part of ourselves (anger towards ourselves).. rather then wanting to change a part of ourselves.

I agree. We are really just attacking some aspect of ourselves. Killing is always a quick solution to things and although we feel like we are above other animals and primates perhaps we are not. When in a lucid dream sometimes my monkey mind takes over and emotions dictate my behaviour. And also I have sometimes taken a negative feeling or violent nature in someone and waved my hand and converted it to a more positive situation. I think Snaggle was just being clever and posed the question: What is more immoral, killing a dream character or putting it into an innocent bystander dream character? But in the end, who cares? It was just a dream and it is your own. And we should never feel ashamed to share our dreams, especially not here!

On another note, I wonder, and I posted this before, do men and women lucid dream differently? I've read that men tend to be more destructive and women are more caring. This, of course, sounds stereotypical, but there might be an element of truth to it.

I'm actually a very nice guy, and destructive lucid dreams are cathartic and provide an outlet for my deep seeded, male, violent nature. (And don't judge me... if anything I am being too honest!)

When I was younger my dreams and lucid dreams were very violent but not very often now, they have changed a lot over time.

In sickness I can get very vivid and odd dreams but always try to find the source of the illness and get rid of it if I can

Have I killed Dream characters...? Yes! And I plan to kill some more! :mrgreen:

In my first lucid dream ever I was in a slum and this madman was attacking a civilian and I said to myself "If this is a dream, then I can have a blade arm like in Prototype". It eventually formed into a blade and I killed the madman. Then someone said they needed my help destroying some evil soldiers. They took me to their hideout, which the soldiers found. I went outside the base, which was at the top of a skyscraper and there were soldiers on the roof and a helicopter with guns. I used electric powers like in inFamous to destroy all but one soldier and the helicopter. I killed the last soldier by hitting him with a pillow, which caused him to lose his balance and fall of the skyscraper(I laughed so hard when I woke up and remembered that part).

It was so much fun I can't wait to do it again! Don't get me wrong though, there's more I wanna do than just slaughter dream enemies. I have some non-violent dreams I'm looking forward to experiencing. ;)

Guitar48300 wrote: I killed the last soldier by hitting him with a pillow, which caused him to lose his balance and fall of the skyscraper

hahah that made me laugh.

Your dream made me see that Im not really against the idea of "killing" like I thought I was.. I thought your dream was quite nobel and to my surprise I enjoyed reading it. It made me think of knights in shining armour.

HAGART wrote: On another note, I wonder, and I posted this before, do men and women lucid dream differently? I've read that men tend to be more destructive and women are more caring. This, of course, sounds stereotypical, but there might be an element of truth to it.

I do think there may be some truth in it as women prefer to nuture and may not have that "warrior"nature males have but it really I do think depends on the person to. Im in a dream group (there is 4 of us who share dreams together) and we have one male in the group... his dreams are so so peaceful and spiritual usuallly leaving me in awe wishing I had dreams like that. I'd really be surprised if I saw he'd had a killing dream (unless it was in defence).

I think things like babies may feature more in female dreams... babies and swords dont go well together :D

I once dreamed that I was acting as a security guard during a cocaine transfer between two gangs. It got violent and everyone started shooting. I was the last one alive. :?

Hmmm, I had a strang dream the other night which fetured "Zombie Nazis". They were like soldiers made from parts of dead nazis (They had gas masks on so I couldn't see thier faces). I used the power of asumption and imagined they would be rather fragile. I walked up to one, kicked it and it just fell over. Other than that I can't recall any other times...though I will try it next time I see the guy that shoved me inbetweed a lion and a shark :twisted:

I killed two men in a lucid dream by stabbing then with a blunt knife. I killed one first and disabled the other with severe injuries. Then, while I pinned the injured one to the ground, I gouged out the dead one's left eye and kept pulling on a red thread of flesh until his brain came through the eye socket.

The injured one kept screaming so I took the pleasure to stuff his mouth with his friend's guts. Then I mercilessly stabbed him to death. I noticed an old man watching me from afar, a witness beyond my reach. But I knew I was dreaming and used telekinesis to hurl him into the air and make him splat on the floor.

The initial point of the lucid dream was to practice self-defence against burglars but I ended up drunk with power in my lucidity. Before I knew it, I was an evil warlock wreaking havoc on a dream town and enjoying a murdering spree. I understand psychos now.

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To me personally, killing a dream character is no bueno. It never even occurred to me, but now that it has, I will be sure to never do it haha.

Dreams are not just dreams to me, and this I even consider that waking life is just as unreal as dream life, so they are the same, which means to me, killing a DC isn't much different then killing a person, the major difference being, I know I can get away with it. Otherwise, killing is killing, especially brutal killing at that. Not a good experience, and not one I would create for myself in a lucid dream.

I much rather have a conversation with a DC and treat him as a real person, (which who knows he may be real!) ;)

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I don't want to hurt anything or anyone; in life, or in my dreams. I can't relate at all. In my dreams, I see all dream characters as aspects of myself appearing in different forms. Messengers from my own subconscious.

I dreamt that I stabbed an enemy from school with a stick once, because he was infected with some kind of zombie disease in my dream. I wasn't fully lucid because I didn't understand that there was no use in killing him because he was just a character my mind had created, but I was concious enough to understand that there was no use in fearing him.

I just turn them into a Car and poof they are not living.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with murdering a dream character.

Anyone who thinks this has some religious background.

Wrong, no religion at all and dont think murder is good

You are making statements yet again that will not end well, please moderate your posts a little something along the lines of adding to each " in my opinion, I think" dont make out you views are absolute truth as they are only your opinions and only one point of view

We are glad you are back with us but we all need to respect each

Peter Moderator

Peter, are you agnostic by any chance? Because that's surely a religious belief.

I don't mean to be rude. I am just stating what the scientific evidence shows.

Nope I sit in the wonderful position of saying that I have no need to believe in religion or no need to not believe. I am happy looking inside for all I need..

It is good to have you on this board so just asking to present your views as yours and that becomes an open dialogue that encourages posts not stops them

Also how about posting some memorable dreams, keen to understand your perspective and adventures while lucid

LOL - just Googled and found out you are correct. I guess I am and just said that, enjoy the joke

Peter, I like you. You are a nice guy. :D

Everything's cool, don't worry.

But I just find it strange that other members can insult me because of my disability, and get away with it.

LOL - yes and no, just open minded I hope when it matters.

Any issues PM me and I will quietly deal with them

Just don't like being called an 'odd ball' by PK Jacker.

As he said, "Yeah sites like these tend to attract a few oddballs, I guess its the escapist nature of the phenomenon."

Noted

Also how about posting some memorable dreams, keen to understand your perspective and adventures while lucid

I agree with Peter, also saying: "In my opinion" and not being to pushy. We all have our own beliefs, so do I, but I will not say this is the truth. Yes I will say: In my opinion, and have an open mind. I have in my life seen a lot of advances, and I am open to correction. looking forward to telling us a few of your adventures :) .

At Lucidity Master: You are not alone, remember that. I've had my problems as well.

Yes I kill my DCs, very often. If I am in my angry mood, then I kill them without mercy, reasoning, or judgment. However, usually if that isn't the case, usually I will to vent, for multimedia purposes, or if I am in my mischievous mood.

I had a dream where me and two other's were running from the devil (red skin, horns) in an apartment complex,we run into a building and down a stairway to a dead end laundry area. I put down one of my companion's against the wall b/c he's hurt( IDK how) also had a feeling he'd support via healing or something. So the devil's coming down the stairway and I rush up the stair's and kick his head into the railing.then it's later and i'm with a DC in a garage in the apartments , i'm holding the still living but bodiless head of the demon getting ready to use power tools like a sander and buzz saw on the head, but a car pulls up and the DC says something alluding to flushing him or throwing him down a drain. Then I woke up :shock:

I'm assuming a dream character is any other entity within the dream. If so yes, but they were intent on doing me harm. So usually I fight on their level, if they fist fight I fist fight, If they have swords I have one and if they use some sort of magic power, I freeze them and fragment them back to basic atoms or worse. :lol:

I've killed DCs plenty of times in self-defense. But if they don't attack me first, I can't bring myself to cause them harm. I'd much rather give them a big hug and have a nice conversation over a cup of hot chocolate. :D

Sparky wrote: I've killed DCs plenty of times in self-defense. But if they don't attack me first, I can't bring myself to cause them harm. I'd much rather give them a big hug and have a nice conversation over a cup of hot chocolate. :D

:lol: Your dreams must be hell on your Starbucks card. :lol: "Bob! Hw are you? Haven't seen you since the dream where I was drowning, how you been? Wanna hot coco and a cookie? :D

Sorry if I had a good laugh at your dreams expense. :oops:

buildit wrote: :lol: Your dreams must be hell on your Starbucks card. :lol: "Bob! Hw are you? Haven't seen you since the dream where I was drowning, how you been? Wanna hot coco and a cookie? :D

Sorry if I had a good laugh at your dreams expense. :oops:

Hahaha! :lol: It's all good, buildit. I laugh at my dreams too! :D

Sparky wrote: Hahaha! :lol: It's all good, buildit. I laugh at my dreams too! :D

;) I don't know why the image of asking a DC for hot cocoa is so funny to me. :D

Think I have said this before but each time you wake up you possibly kill the lot of them anyway.

I've asked that question directly to a few DC's. What happens when I wake up? Where do you go? Do you exist without me?

I shared a few examples over the years, but we should all ask that and see for ourselves.

Here's an example: If you scroll down the 'Dream Character" section, and view past threads on other pages, it's called: "Do dream characters exist beyond the dream? I asked one."

Or if you're lazy... here's a link to it: http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13164

I am really really lazy so you could tell me :|

NO! I'm too lazy to tell you about it. But it's easy to follow the link.

Don't make me come to your house and do it for you! :x

I have tried in ordinary dreams but not lucid dreams. Usually when I try to strike out at a dream character my arms are like lead, and even if I connect it's like trying to punch through a blanket. No result at all. The Dream Character is still there.

In Lucid Dreams, when I meet an unsavory character or some monster, I just tell myself that this is just mental noise and that it cannot hurt me. It usually just goes away. When it doesn't work I just "spin" and go somewhere else. I got the idea from Tebitan Buddhism.

I have read many NDE accounts of people who had horrifying near death encounters. Just imagine how those NDE's could have been turned round if those people had been exposed to these ideas?

Old Traveler

Peter wrote: I am really really lazy so you could tell me :|

Me too; but curiosity trumps sloth

I ran out of things to talk about and I looked him straight in the face and asked, "You know this is a dream right?" He said yes. I asked, "Do you exist?" He said, yes, I exist in your head. (It made perfect sense to me at the time. I can see him, hear him, if I wanted to I could have touched him. He exists in all the ways we define existence in reality.) Then I asked, when you leave here, and I continue with the dream elsewhere, or if I wake up, do you still exist? He didn't answer and he turned and left around a corner, but I followed to keep my eye on him. Although viewing him from behind I felt like he had morphed and upon closer inspection, I was right. He was now a different person altogether. I yelled at him, "Do you remember who you are!" I tried to jar his memory, but it was too late. He was gone, and a new body took his place, without 'him' inside. Haggart

It's an interesting question whether they stop existing when you wake up. They continue to exist in ones memory whether one remembers them or not. Another interesting question is do DC that existed in dreams you were unaware of later show up in dreams you were aware you were dreaming?

AK-47'd some LD characters in a spy dream before. Also I had a pistol with three bullet and took out three people. But I never have killing dreams so these are only two occasions

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I had to brutally kill a DC in self defense in a dream once. Those guys were trying to rape me and kill me, it seemed... Not good...!

This group was circling around me and trapped me, then punched and kicked me to the ground. I felt every blow, I tasted the blood in my mouth. I grabbed a lead pipe and bashed the main guy in the head and the other two went running. I felt really horrified! I've never been a violent person but it seemed like either I off that character or the unpleasantness might continue, and it really hurt for me. A very yucky time indeed!

That was a bit earlier in my dreaming experience. I guess I can't say if I was 'lucid' or not, I just had this moment where I felt compelled to act.

Other than that, more recently I have willed spirits away which has been really easy. Once I realized that I could generally be reasonable with energies that presented themselves in my dream life (which I also equate now to spiritual) I could dismiss those things. I've had menacing triangle shapes (yeah I know, weird!), dark princes, mean ladies, etc- and even new potential rapist characters that I've simply dismissed and it works much better than actually smashing them with a pipe. LOL.... :p

I've noticed that dream characters react to our emotions and are basically projections stemming from us. Feel fear and they will become frightening, get angry and they fight back, think happy thoughts and they will be your friend.

But you can't fake emotions. You have to truly feel them. Turning a nightmare around isn't easy when you are pumped up and ready to 'fight or flight'. A hug doesn't do a thing if you are still terrified deep down.

Emotions are quite powerful if not the single greatest power and influence on a dream, lucid or otherwise. When lucid however, we can become self-aware of our emotions and alter them to a degree. That's the best way to conquer and smite a dream character that we don't want around.

And if that doesn't work I just wave my hand and they usually go flying away or smash against a wall into a dust cloud of tiny pixels and vanish. The more sentient type dream characters however are very 'concrete', vivid and solid, and my powers don't have any affect on them for some reason. That could be another topic.

Anyway, the bottom line is, sometimes we do need to fight back and dreams could sometimes teach us survival skills and throw us into situations we don't ever want to face, but prepare us. It could be evolutionary advantageous to practice survival training in the 'holodeck' of our minds. I have been attacked by wolves, leopards, and snakes. Fighting a Dream Character doesn't mean it has to be human now does it?

HAGART wrote: I've noticed that dream characters react to our emotions and are basically projections stemming from us. Feel fear and they will become frightening, get angry and they fight back, think happy thoughts and they will be your friend.

But you can't fake emotions. You have to truly feel them. Turning a nightmare around isn't easy when you are pumped up and ready to 'fight or flight'. A hug doesn't do a thing if you are still terrified deep down.

Emotions are quite powerful if not the single greatest power and influence on a dream, lucid or otherwise.

I used to think that emotions were the strongest affector of ones dream but due to an experience I had with a LD in which I was very scared, it showed me that isnt true.. instead belief itself seems to be the strongest affector of dreams.

Ive come to that conclusion due to a LD I had in which I was in the middle of the ocean in a small row boat with a very scary demon wanting to kill me sitting right across from me within reach. Thou I was sooo very scared of it (even thou I knew it was a dream this DC still was very scary to me), I used reason and belief to change that dream and incredibly thou I was very scared when I was trying to change the demon into something else, it still changed to something non threatening just on the belief of "this is my dream so I should be able to change this"

Just the power of belief in knowing I could change a dream, overrode the manifestion power of the emotional fear energy I still had in that dream. I was actually so scared I was shaking when I shut my eyes and tried to change him to something else. I was actually surprised when I found it had worked (as I did think the fear would stop him from going to something not scary).

Several...but few have been memorable.

One in particular was in an extremely lucid dream...there was a competition, it was about killing this enormous, hairy beast with glowing eyes. There was this blonde man who kept trying to shoot me, but I was able to blow his legs off and try going after the monster. The man came back to life and charged me this time, gripped me in a bear hug and stared at me with this insane grin. I stabbed and slashed him in the throat so many times over everything was drenched in blood but he wouldn't let go, until the beast grabbed and ate us both.

It was extremely intense.

Aria wrote: Several...but few have been memorable.

Yeah, me too

The only ones I remember are dreams where there was something interesting/memorable about the enemy, or I killed in a very creative, fun way

A good example of a fun kill was one where I snuck into a villain's mansion. He was on the 2nd floor balcony. When I got there I charge at him from behind to where I was pushing him. When we got to the edge I jumped while holding him. And in that of pushing and jumping he asked me "W-what are you an[I jump] ARTIST?!?!?! :o " So we're in the air, I let go of him for a moment then grab him by the head and forced it to land on a concrete curb. The impact caused us to bounce, me being alive, him being dead.

I woke up laughing like I heard a hilarious joke :lol: . He was right; I am an artist, and not just with music ;) 8-)

Most of the time, my dream characters are very nice and I don't want to hurt them, but I did kill one of them: She was my 5th grade teacher who had been very cruel to me.

I was walking through the school, knowing every inch of it. It looked as it did when I went there, in the 1980's; it has been remodeled.

I walk up the stairs to the 5th grade section. I go into a room that I knew as my 5th grade classroom. I can see my 11 or 12-year-old self leaning against an accordion-like partition. She told me to get away from it because I was being punished for not doing my homework.

Behind my back, I am holding a knife. I tell her that she is not going to run my life anymore, that I did make something of myself, that she couldn't hurt me anymore. I bring my hand out from behind my back and come toward her, slashing away, Norman Bates style. The kids and the 11-12-year-old me start to scream. I don't even remember killing her, but move away, seeing her in a pool of blood, and a bloody knife in my hand. As I walk toward the door, I wake up.

It was so real that I found her number in the book and called her. I listened to her say hello a few times and hung up. I was so relieved that I hadn't killed her. I had strange dreams about her before that, but after I killed her, they never returned.

i usually kill people in my lucid dreams by pretending my hands are guns and shooting them. a bight more violent i have killed people with my hands... i do this strictly to get those people out of my dream if i have a different goal in mind

I'm not sure if this really counts as killing, but I had a dream where I was a survivor in a zombie apocalypse. Although I don't remember much, I remember killing zombies in various ways on a road out in the middle of no where. I had a rough day before the dream and I guess I was just blowing off steam(even though I wasn't lucid). In any case, I enjoyed it. ;)

i was attacked by a black cat in a dream, i had the same dream a few times and the cat beat me, but this time i strangled it goodo, ''i woke up that morning and flet like i could take on the world'' the feeling wore off after a few hours. :lol:

seanEE wrote: i was attacked by a black cat in a dream, i had the same dream a few times and the cat beat me, but this time i strangled it goodo, ''i woke up that morning and flet like i could take on the world'' the feeling wore off after a few hours. :lol:

I get the same feeling after a good kill. It's great isn't it? Very relieving 8-)

Hello, Tear here.

While i have never tried to kill any of characters from my dreams (i hold respect to each and every one of them) i did experience a characters death in a dream.

i have few important characters in a dream and one of more important ones is a Floran* named Semini. Semini is Still a good friend of mine, but trough dreaming her sister called Ember died from a wierd curse in a dream... i did not create this curse nor did i ever have intended to kill Ember. but after few months Ember did not show up in a dream and Semini still acts as her sister is dead. i never tried to bring Ember back to life, however after she passed away i was given a ring with red flower on it to remember her. ring is on my hand in a dream about 90% of the time and i have started to use it as a sign that im dreaming.

*Floran - a plant like humanoid made out of flowers, leaves and other plantlife. an imaginary creature.

Nothing shocks me. I have seen and done so many crazy things in lucid dreams, and of course regular dreams too.

Thanks for sharing. There is nothing to be ashamed of. Most of us have a morbid mind and are influenced by games, but we are all good people at heart. I will go out on a limb and say it's a guy thing to be violent in dreams, and enjoy some gory movies and games.

I find it odd how we can be so open about violence in dreams, and games in our culture, but we can't talk about sexuality in dreams or see nudity in games because it seems far worse than ripping someone in half with blood spewing out, splattering on the walls.

Food for thought. ;)

jeremy1113 wrote:

erichsa wrote:WHY? :shock:

Exactly my question, why in the world would you want to "kill" off , not just your dream characters, but anything? Hope you will not take these things into the real world.

But to answer your question, no I have never felt the desire to kill. Although I have had the need to interact and get insight into some of these characters, pick there brain, so to speak.

Utterly thrashing and destroying a dream character is generally a very good symbol, indicating that some element of the psyche that has been an obstacle of sorts has been overcome and vanquished. ... and that's a good thing....

Have you ever killed a real live person in waking life? Just asking.

Skippy23000 wrote: Have you ever killed a real live person in waking life? Just asking.

Who are you asking? (and why do you ask?) Me?, no. I have not been in any sort of physical altercation since elementary school.

RobertForsythe wrote: Utterly thrashing and destroying a dream character is generally a very good symbol, indicating that some element of the psyche that has been an obstacle of sorts has been overcome and vanquished. ... and that's a good thing....

It's a good thing to destroy dream characters, he says, so sure that they are nothing but 'elements of the psyche'... :D

But then we take into account what he told someone else on a different topic:

RobertForsythe wrote: I am open to the possibility that the DC are actual real people with bodies operating somewhere else in the world. If people can psychically communicate with other people across the world while in the waking state it seems likely it could be done in the dream state, maybe even more easily. But finding these people in the waking state is a challenge. I have tried.

So, he is also open to the possibility that he could be giving real people nightmares by attempting to destroy his dream characters. :)

And he wonders why Skippy23000 asked him if he ever killed someone in real life ... :mrgreen:

Summerlander makes a good point. You can't think both and must make a decision.

I don't think I've ever actually succeeded in fully killing a dream character. Not for a lack of trying. I think dream actions are totally amoral, with no consequence in the real world. But it seems that the more violent I am with a dream character, the more inhuman they become. The dream loses a bit of realism and the person morphs into a squid or some strange bloated caricature with vaguely human parts. For example, if I'm choking a guy, his head will swell up and his features will contort and become all shiny and the dream will collapse.

Also, when I'm trying to kill dream characters, the dream seems quite adept at assembling a sort of security force. It will literally fight back. For example, the night before last night I found myself lucid in a sort of shopping mall. Remembering this thread, I went into a sports equipment store and expected to find a katana mounted on the wall. I retrieved my samurai sword, thinking it would be fun trying to decapitate some dream characters. But when I turned around I found myself surrounded by five ninjas all holding swords identical with mine. Now I'm in a five-way sword fight that I'm quickly losing--and my lucidity is going down the drain, too, because I'm concerned I'm going to be cut, failing to realize the implications of lucidity.

Something equivalent usually happens when I engage in violence in a lucid dream. I need to work on keeping my lucidity, which affords me power over the dream world. Whatever leukocytic "security force" the dream procures I can easily get rid of if I realize the full implications of being in a dream.

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I know what you mean, deschainXIX and often have that trouble with characters morphing during lucid dream sex. I will just say two words that hope makes others think about it more:

THOUGHT POLICE ;)

I never had the need to do so. But I already killed by them several times. Some of them, I felt very panic and despair. (Even after death, I found myself living in another world, as it were, dream within the dream).

Summerlander wrote:

RobertForsythe wrote:Utterly thrashing and destroying a dream character is generally a very good symbol, indicating that some element of the psyche that has been an obstacle of sorts has been overcome and vanquished. ... and that's a good thing....

It's a good thing to destroy dream characters, he says, so sure that they are nothing but 'elements of the psyche'... :D

But then we take into account what he told someone else on a different topic:

RobertForsythe wrote: I am open to the possibility that the DC are actual real people with bodies operating somewhere else in the world. If people can psychically communicate with other people across the world while in the waking state it seems likely it could be done in the dream state, maybe even more easily. But finding these people in the waking state is a challenge. I have tried.

So, he is also open to the possibility that he could be giving real people nightmares by attempting to destroy his dream characters. :)

And he wonders why Skippy23000 asked him if he ever killed someone in real life ... :mrgreen:

You are lost in a shallow fog AGAIN, Enra/Summerlander.

I did not "wonder"? why Skippy asked me that... I merely asked for clarification if his question was directed at me?... or maybe it was for the OP ... or anyone else... it was a rather ambiguously posed question. (That is something you might want to learn how to do -- asking for clarification first....)

As far as the "giving other people nightmares" aspect goes... you are jumping to conclusions... again....

I have mentioned to you repeatedly that you might pause a moment now and then and ask for clarification before you go off half cocked as you so often do.

I presently believe that about 99% of humanity is residing in a near zombie state 99% of the time. In the Dream state they are almost exclusively dealing with figments of their imagination... much like their waking state....

The VAST majority of the time when a person dreams of obliterating an opponent in a dream it is merely a DC that is being obliterated.

On the other hand, for some people, I remain open to the possibility that some "dreamers" might be honestly perceiving another conscious entity. If one is defending themselves from a genuine psychic attack self defense is a wise move. In such a case it would be morally and ethically acceptable to obliterate the attacker with everything you've got. There are other options as well but that might get way out there and I am running long on this reply already.