Effects on Dream Characters
I am sure that this question hasn't been asked :) I haven't had a lucid dream to be able to answer this question myself, so i want to know, if you effect a dream character in any way such as blinding them, will they act like they actually are blind and will walk around not being able to see and stuff or will they be blind yet somehow be able to see still. And also, once you do something to them, will it last the whole dream or will it somehow wear off. Kind of an odd question but it's been on my mind for a while. :D
yeah, i understand that this question is bugging you but all i can really say is that you'll have to find out for yourself :D
the thing is: you can't really define how certain things in dream will act because it's all up to the dreamer and what's going on in their subconsciousness (and what they're expecting to happen).
so.. although some things in dream have a foggy defined behaviour (like: hands often look weird, clocks often don't work, ...) you can't really say anything for sure.
Yeah those are odd questions :lol:
Well I have never thought or wanted to blind one of my DCs.
And also, once you do something to them, will it last the whole dream or will it somehow wear off.
Your subconsciousness is always trying to put out its messages while you are dreaming.. so I assume that the character could change and what you do "could" end up wearing off (if the manifestation of your subconsciousness is stronger then your waking will in having the character like that).
I havent altered my DCs much but when I have eg changed a demon DC into a child, they havent changed again but then I wasnt around those for a long time after I altered them but I assume due to logic in how dreams manifest that they would be able to change or even go back to the way they were before after a while if your subconsciousness was trying to tell you something by that character.
so i want to know, if you effect a dream character in any way such as blinding them, will they act like they actually are blind and will walk around not being able to see and stuff or will they be blind yet somehow be able to see still
They'd act either like whatever you consciously expect them to do OR will act according to what your subconsciousness wants them to do. So how they'd react to that all depends on you! There wouldnt be a set answer to that question.
[quote="taniaaust1"]Yeah those are odd questions :lol:
Well I have never thought or wanted to blind one of my DCs.
It was just an example :P I might not actually blind them... depends on who they are :lol: Another question, once you realize you are dreaming are your hands still weird and you reflecion still fuzzy? And also, what happens when you summon something. Say for instance, you are in a dark room so you summon a torch in your hand, will it suddenly turn into, say, a stick when you don't realize? can you even summon things?? That would be soo awesome ! :D
Did i do the quote thing right ^ :?:
Control a dream character.
I cant even fly in my lucid dream, so to control a DC it will be hard for me. I must be more lucid in my dream. To be a god of my dream.
btifuldreamer wrote: I am sure that this question hasn't been asked :) I haven't had a lucid dream to be able to answer this question myself, so i want to know, if you effect a dream character in any way such as blinding them, will they act like they actually are blind and will walk around not being able to see and stuff or will they be blind yet somehow be able to see still. And also, once you do something to them, will it last the whole dream or will it somehow wear off. Kind of an odd question but it's been on my mind for a while. :D
Keep in mind, DCs know what you are going to before you do it because they are you. They will react the way you want them to of course. But we have to remember that DCs are in a dream for some purpose to show us something and we may not be able to do what we want with them. I think that's why they often don't say anything when we talk to them because maybe that's not why they are there in that dream at that time. If we let them, DCs give us what we need dream, not necessarily what we want. Of course it's interesting to try different things and see what happens because you never know.
Keep in mind, DCs know what you are going to before you do it because they are you. They will react the way you want them to of course. But we have to remember that DCs are in a dream for some purpose to show us something and we may not be able to do what we want with them. I think that's why they often don't say anything when we talk to them because maybe that's not why they are there in that dream at that time. If we let them, DCs give us what we need dream, not necessarily what we want. Of course it's interesting to try different things and see what happens because you never know.[/quote] (don't know if i did the quote right ^) hmmm. It never occured to me that your dream chracters are you. In a way, is a lucid dream like a plane in non auto pilot mode? Kind of an odd metaphor but when you non lucid dream, everything that is supposed to happen happens, but when you are lucid you make your own decisions and moves so the outcome of what dream charaters do may change from what they were supposed to do. Right? :?:
Je-Je wrote: Control a dream character.
I cant even fly in my lucid dream, so to control a DC it will be hard for me. I must be more lucid in my dream. To be a god of my dream.
Je Je you really need to change the thinking you got going on there. Your doubts will stop you from experiencing what you could otherwise in your LD. I dont know where you get the idea that you wouldnt be able to control a DC cause you cant fly (they are completely different things and that isnt at all necessarily true..only if you think its true).
I cant fly like superman (due to some blocks I have on it) but I can do far more then just control a DC, I can make a DC change into something completely opposite then it is so to a new form. As long as you believe you cant do things you wont even if their wouldnt have been a block on those things before for you, your thought just has created one.
btifuldreamer wrote:
taniaaust1 wrote:Yeah those are odd questions :lol:
Well I have never thought or wanted to blind one of my DCs.
It was just an example :P I might not actually blind them... depends on who they are :lol: Another question, once you realize you are dreaming are your hands still weird and you reflecion still fuzzy? And also, what happens when you summon something. Say for instance, you are in a dark room so you summon a torch in your hand, will it suddenly turn into, say, a stick when you don't realize? can you even summon things?? That would be soo awesome ! :D
Did i do the quote thing right ^ :?:
with your quote you needed to put [ /quote] but without the gap I have after the [ at the end of what you were quoting.
btifuldreamer wrote: but when you are lucid you make your own decisions and moves so the outcome of what dream charaters do may change from what they were supposed to do. Right? :?:
yes they can change cause of what you've done eg I was lucid and in a kitchen of a house which wasnt my own and wanted to do one of my LD challenges (of making something taste real awesome, better then in real life). So I opened the fridge and just took out a banana to eat. A DC in the room turns and looks at me horrified and starts lecturing at me for stealing the banana. (so my waking mind actions did influence what the DC did in that dream.. what that DC did really shocked me.. I jumped in startlement as she suddenly went "What are you doing!" in a very loud voice to my conscious action).
yes they can change cause of what you've done eg I was lucid and in a kitchen of a house which wasnt my own and wanted to do one of my LD challenges (of making something taste real awesome, better then in real life). So I opened the fridge and just took out a banana to eat. A DC in the room turns and looks at me horrified and starts lecturing at me for stealing the banana. (so my waking mind actions did influence what the DC did in that dream.. what that DC did really shocked me.. I jumped in startlement as she suddenly went "What are you doing!" in a very loud voice to my conscious action).[/quote]
ahh k thought so. Something i am scared of when i summon a dream character is that say i do the method that rebecca mentioned where you turn around and expect the dream character you wanted to be there, i'm scared that when i think of someone and turn around it will be some really creepy thing instead of the person i wanted :oops: Will this happen?
taniaaust1 wrote:
Je-Je wrote:Control a dream character.
I cant even fly in my lucid dream, so to control a DC it will be hard for me. I must be more lucid in my dream. To be a god of my dream.
Je Je you really need to change the thinking you got going on there. Your doubts will stop you from experiencing what you could otherwise in your LD. I dont know where you get the idea that you wouldnt be able to control a DC cause you cant fly (they are completely different things and that isnt at all necessarily true..only if you think its true).
I cant fly like superman (due to some blocks I have on it) but I can do far more then just control a DC, I can make a DC change into something completely opposite then it is so to a new form. As long as you believe you cant do things you wont even if their wouldnt have been a block on those things before for you, your thought just has created one.
Ok, now i must said to myself; i can control my dream like a god. 8-)
- I must control my dream becuase i AM a god ;)
Because I feel dream figures are aspects of your own subconscious; then I think if you 'blind' a DC, you are 'blinding' a part of your own psyche. They are all you after all. How could they be anything else? Perhaps sometimes they are even an aspect of your 'shadow', as Jung would say; in which case, 'threatening figures' would need integration and understanding ( being brought into the 'light' of conscious awareness, rather than suppressed, and hidden, or 'held down', or overpowered.) Jung felt that suppression of the shadow self only caused it to grow and create more disturbance for you and your psyche. (Perhaps Dream Figures are significant and require somewhat more respect than treating them as a video type game.) After all, consciousness in the dreamworld ( being lucid), I believe, is your 'ego' operating within the subconscious realm ( and the subconscious is a very rich and significant part of a person's being in whatever forms it may take).